instrument rating
09-18-2009, 02:12 PM
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instrument rating
I have a student that wants to get an instrument rating, kinda nice since im getting burned out just doing primary instruction. The new student has his private pilot certificate airplane single engine land. He also has a commercial helicopter and instrument helicopter. So for this he does not need to take another instrument knowledge test? And just needs to have 50 hours of PIC cross country and at least 10 hours of that in fixed wing airplane?
Just want to make sure. Never thought I would get a situation like this. Kinda seems like a question an examiner would ask on a check ride.
Just want to make sure. Never thought I would get a situation like this. Kinda seems like a question an examiner would ask on a check ride.
09-18-2009, 05:19 PM
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If you're going to instruct, you should get to know the enemy. From the FSIMS:
5-435 TYPES OF INSTRUMENT RATINGS.
A. Instrument Ratings and Associated Aircraft Ratings.
· Instrument—Airplane.
· Instrument—Helicopter.
· Instrument—Powered‑lift.
B. Requirements. An Instrument—Airplane rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in an airplane. An Instrument—Helicopter rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a helicopter. An Instrument—Powered‑lift rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a powered‑lift. A person who already holds an instrument rating in one category of aircraft and is applying for additional instrument rating in another category of aircraft need only obtain the appropriate aeronautical experience, training, endorsements, and pass the appropriate practical test, but does not need to take an additional knowledge test.
5-435 TYPES OF INSTRUMENT RATINGS.
A. Instrument Ratings and Associated Aircraft Ratings.
· Instrument—Airplane.
· Instrument—Helicopter.
· Instrument—Powered‑lift.
B. Requirements. An Instrument—Airplane rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in an airplane. An Instrument—Helicopter rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a helicopter. An Instrument—Powered‑lift rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a powered‑lift. A person who already holds an instrument rating in one category of aircraft and is applying for additional instrument rating in another category of aircraft need only obtain the appropriate aeronautical experience, training, endorsements, and pass the appropriate practical test, but does not need to take an additional knowledge test.
09-18-2009, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
If you're going to instruct, you should get to know the enemy. From the FSIMS:
5-435 TYPES OF INSTRUMENT RATINGS.
A. Instrument Ratings and Associated Aircraft Ratings.
· Instrument—Airplane.
· Instrument—Helicopter.
· Instrument—Powered‑lift.
B. Requirements. An Instrument—Airplane rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in an airplane. An Instrument—Helicopter rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a helicopter. An Instrument—Powered‑lift rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a powered‑lift. A person who already holds an instrument rating in one category of aircraft and is applying for additional instrument rating in another category of aircraft need only obtain the appropriate aeronautical experience, training, endorsements, and pass the appropriate practical test, but does not need to take an additional knowledge test.
5-435 TYPES OF INSTRUMENT RATINGS.
A. Instrument Ratings and Associated Aircraft Ratings.
· Instrument—Airplane.
· Instrument—Helicopter.
· Instrument—Powered‑lift.
B. Requirements. An Instrument—Airplane rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in an airplane. An Instrument—Helicopter rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a helicopter. An Instrument—Powered‑lift rating is issued to an applicant who qualifies for an instrument rating in a powered‑lift. A person who already holds an instrument rating in one category of aircraft and is applying for additional instrument rating in another category of aircraft need only obtain the appropriate aeronautical experience, training, endorsements, and pass the appropriate practical test, but does not need to take an additional knowledge test.
Hi whats the FSIMS?
09-19-2009, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by slipped
Hi whats the FSIMS?
Technically FAA Order 8900.1, it's a collection of FAA quasi-regulatory information in one place. It's a lot of stuff and surprisingly well-organized, especially in the online version.
09-19-2009, 07:51 AM
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Just a couple of clarifications:
61.65(d)(1) At least 50 hours of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes for an instrument—airplane rating;
The Helicopter XC counts and is only 25nm, but part of the 10 in airplanes can be the 250nm trip.
61.65(d)(2)(i) At least 15 hours of instrument flight training from an authorized instructor in the aircraft category for which the instrument rating is sought;
Needs 15 hours in the airplane doing IFR training with an instructor
Remind the student no to slow to 60 KIAS on the FAC and the visibility cannot be reduce to 1/4 nm.
61.65(d)(1) At least 50 hours of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes for an instrument—airplane rating;
The Helicopter XC counts and is only 25nm, but part of the 10 in airplanes can be the 250nm trip.
61.65(d)(2)(i) At least 15 hours of instrument flight training from an authorized instructor in the aircraft category for which the instrument rating is sought;
Needs 15 hours in the airplane doing IFR training with an instructor
Remind the student no to slow to 60 KIAS on the FAC and the visibility cannot be reduce to 1/4 nm.
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