Non-English Proficient passing PPL
10-11-2009, 12:12 PM
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Non-English Proficient passing PPL
How do you guys feel about Non-English proficient Private Pilot applicants passing the oral and practical exam?
When I say Non-English, I mean you could say good morning to them and they look at you with a puzzled look trying to figure out what you said! Happens quite often at my 141 school! The english speaking guys get the tough and more in depth oral's with a just as tough practical. Just doesn't seem fair especially when you read 61.103. How can the FAA hold me accountable for violating a FAR but not take issue with a Non-english proficient student/students getting licensed here in the states which is in violation of 61.103??
Is this common at other schools and what are your thoughts? Fair or not?
Now, I know one question is " how do they do the required towered landings" Well, we call the tower supervisor at a local class "D" towered field and they make it pretty damn easy. My 6 year old could follow those instructions. Also, we have examing authority at our school and DPE owns the school.
When I say Non-English, I mean you could say good morning to them and they look at you with a puzzled look trying to figure out what you said! Happens quite often at my 141 school! The english speaking guys get the tough and more in depth oral's with a just as tough practical. Just doesn't seem fair especially when you read 61.103. How can the FAA hold me accountable for violating a FAR but not take issue with a Non-english proficient student/students getting licensed here in the states which is in violation of 61.103??
Is this common at other schools and what are your thoughts? Fair or not?
Now, I know one question is " how do they do the required towered landings" Well, we call the tower supervisor at a local class "D" towered field and they make it pretty damn easy. My 6 year old could follow those instructions. Also, we have examing authority at our school and DPE owns the school.
10-11-2009, 04:53 PM
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Actually the AME is supposed to screen for ESL when issuing a medical.
But realistically, are these students going to stay here and compete for US pilot jobs? Probably not. Are they going to do any unsupervised general aviation in the US? Hopefully not.
Do they contribute to the general aviation economy with their training dollars? Yup.
But realistically, are these students going to stay here and compete for US pilot jobs? Probably not. Are they going to do any unsupervised general aviation in the US? Hopefully not.
Do they contribute to the general aviation economy with their training dollars? Yup.
10-12-2009, 03:25 PM
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Hi!
EVERY exam that is given by the FAA includes English Proficiency. That is why, if you have an FAA license, you can ask the FAA for a new one that states "English Proficient", which is nice when looking at overseas jobs...you don't need to take any tests to prove that you're proficient.
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EVERY exam that is given by the FAA includes English Proficiency. That is why, if you have an FAA license, you can ask the FAA for a new one that states "English Proficient", which is nice when looking at overseas jobs...you don't need to take any tests to prove that you're proficient.
cliff
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