So i would assume if I want to get into piloting, to do part 141? Is part 61 worthless then in terms of hours toward getting a license/certs?

Neither is worthless.

I would HIGHLY, HIGHLY suggest looking at a Part 61 school. There is more lee-way for the instructor, etc, and on most cases is significantly cheaper than a Part 141 school. Part 141 schools have added costs that they have to pay to the FAA for their certifications, etc.

Some of these questions can be answered here as well. This is FAAH 8083-27, Student Pilot Guide Handbook.

Okay so they are just as good and will count 1:1 toward the hours needed, just one is more heavily regulated?

You're getting the hang of it :)

I'd suggest doing it 61. I started out 61, and it did feel like it was taking me forever, but the 141 program I did didn't allow me to have a job on the side, they were not flexible to personal situations. With 61 you go as often as you can.

All 141 schools are not like that. I just completed a 141 school and they were flexible with my schedule. The thing about 141 schools is that they have a set curriculim to go by

Part 141 will save you money in the long run if they have structured instrument and commercial programs. Lots of the time requirements go away. I had my commercial multi with just under 200 hours and my CFI at about 220 hours. Since February (when I started working as a CFI) of this year I've logged 200 hours with about 50 this month. I'm in the midwest, and the weather can be an issue but the more established instructors are logging about twice as much time monthy as I am. I'm not really too worried about it because I'm making enough to pay the bills and should pick up more students once I have my CFII.

All too often people equate part 141 with the pilot factories but even small mom and pop flight schools often have a 141 curriculum because it usually lowers insurance costs as a result of the FAA "oversight" of the program. The insurance companies see this as being safer. Your ratings don't say where you did your training, or if you did them part 61 or 141. You'll end up with about the same hours doing your private part 141 as you would 61 but you'll start saving with the instrument and commercial.

Thanks "Direct Bears". Opinion noted. Cheers....

No one can guarante to finish a course in a certain amount of hours. It depends on you , how quick you develop the skills and how afoten you fly. I took flying lessons as an adult while working and being in the army. It took me seven years and 120 hours to get my private pilots lisence. I just completed my commercial multi. Evryonwe tolsd me it would take 8 hours. It took me 20 hours. So, there is no magic number. It all depends

I have trained and worked at both 141 and 61 schools. Generally, the 141 schools will save you flight time, but not money. They will charge more for their "higher quality" 141 training. So you spend the same or more money, get the same ratings, but less total time...hmmmm. Remember, total time is the main measure of your career progression at the entry level. I could be wrong, but it seems like more is better...