Atp
 

Is it true that if you pass the flight trainign and earn your instructor lkicense that they will employ you as an instructor to build time? if so then thats where i'm going

Ahhh... maybe. But last I checked, they prefer their instructors to be able to spell.... :rolleyes:

yes. if you're not an idiot....

Atp
 

You will get hired, but you will go down to Jax, FL and answer phones, or work in dispatch until the location that you want opens up. You also must pass you standardization training with the chief pilot, which I thought was easy, but there are plenty of people who don't make it. Once you have done that, you can instruct and fly as much multi time as you can get. The pay sucks, but you can't beat getting multi time vs. single engine.

in regards to choosing a location, if i had no preference in which training center i was hired by, could that make me more marketable?

Yes, but that doesn't mean much. There are a lot of loop holes. All they have to do is hire you for one student and tell you to go else where. Or what they do is tell you yes you are hired but you have to wait 1-6 months or more untill a spot opens up. In fact that's what many of these schools that promise CFI hiring after training do. They aren't stupid, they aren't going to hire just anybody that completes their program. They wan't the best guys/gals. For most of the schools, CFI hiring is the number one asset when it comes to advertisment, that's how they get a lot of students. But be careful it's not a sure thing.

What are u talking about, ATP doesn't hire you for one student. Ya you have to wait a little bit before you go to your location like I said before. I would pass up instructing SE for all the ME time. Unless you instructed here, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have to do something stupid to get fired. You will stay on until you are ready to go.

So before you get to instruct in the city of your choice at ATP, IF you get hired, everybody must go to JAX for a little while? I'm hoping to work in the ATL location after I'm done. Hopefully being able to spell will help me get hired. From being on this website, for some reason it seems like pilots in training are illiterate.

They will give you the location of your choice, but you might wait around a little while until a spot opens up, especially at a location like ATL where alot of peolple want to go b/c it is busier than alot of other locations.

Excellent, thank you for the info. Maybe I will get to meet you in passing in the next 10 months during my training. Going to Clyde Shelton in AL for my private checkride and off to ATP it is!!:rolleyes:

ctd57:

Long time no talk to my friend. :)

ATP is still my choice for training. My ex and I are definitely getting back together later this year. Our home is in Ft. Pierce, FL. So...if a CFI slot is not open in SUA by the time I get ready to do the CFI thing, I go to JAX and answer phones & dispatch?

Sounds ok! One question though, do they pay for room and board while I'm waiting for the slot at the location I chose to open up?


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Atp
 

I have been on here just not as much, but anyway, you will get the city you choose, and ATP will put you in a furnished apartment while you are working at the admin office in JAX. If you are lucky, you will live in these complex called Belliza. They are brand new condos that ATP bought just down the street from the head office. They are really nice, well as long as the people living in them take care of them. They will also supply you an apartment in Stuart if you need it. They take $200.00 out of your paycheck, but that covers all utilities and it is furnished. You will see these apartments when you go on cross countries. You might even stay in one full time when you are a student, if you want one. They don't charge any extra for an apartment, but they are only available to the 90 day program students. Any questions, just let me know.

About how long on average will one have to work in admin in JAX before going to the locale of your choice? I'm assuming it just has to do with when a position opens, right?

That's right.

A couple a guys in my new hire class never answered one single phone call. They were gone within 2-3 days. But on the other hand, I was in dispatch for 2 months. It really isn't that bad, you are getting paid, instead of paying, living in a furnished apartment, and on your days off, you can fly with guys who just got there SE PVT and build up some flight time while you are waiting to go to the location you want.

Rent a plane between the two of you or does ATP let you use theirs and you pay for the gas?

-LAFF

You use ATP's cessnas. You fly with guys who already have their private se which they got through ATP's pvt program. They are just building xc time to enter the career program, those are the only guys who can do the pvt through ATP. You pay for nothing to fly with these guys except for your lunch wherever you are going. You can fly all over the southeast. The only rule is that you cannot fly more than 8 hours/day according to the regs. Sometimes there are a ton of these guys, then sometimes there aren't so many. When I was down there, they couldn't find enough instructors to fly with the students. From September to December of 2005, ATP needed to fly over 2000 hours with their pvt students. So you have the opportunity to fly a bunch of time while you are waiting to go to your location, if the time is their to burn.

I think I understand. The pvt guys are getting their 85 hours xc PIC time for the ATP career program. You and other CFIs are going along to log it as SIC time?

Also, all the PVT training is done at JAX and one or two other locations, right?

-LAFF

That will be me in about 2 weeks!! gotta get to my 85 hours. I can't wait, my flight school has ugly P models that always have inop something. I hear the ATP planes are very well kept.

Leo, I thought that you said that you were going to Clyde Shelton for your checkride, did you mean pvt se? I took 3 checkrides with him while I was at ATP, I thought you had already started the program.

LAFF-
It is not logged as SIC time, you are an instructor, that is PIC. These guys have their pvt se, ATP wants them to get it done by 55 hours, the pvt program is an 85 hour program. Now the rest of their flight time, 30 hours, is xc time building. What you do with these guys is get them started on instrument training. Have them get out low enroute charts, file a flight plan, put them under the hood, basic instrument stuff.

I got you...Getting them a head start on what to look forward to in the IFR program...

One more question - never mind I'll look it up myself on the website...

-LAFF

Yes, for my private SE checkride. Going next weekend to see Clyde, then after that go to ATP to do my 55-85 hours, and then starting the program after that. I did the Private through ATP also, but they sub that out to "The Flight School" at Briscoe field in Lawrenceville, GA. Everything after the Pvt is at ATP.

Finished Self Paced Private Program
 

I finished up my 85th hour tonight. I started the self paced program at ATP DFW (Arlington) May 5th. I landed tonight finishing hour 85. I never thought I would have been an 85 hour pilot 3 months ago. I think I did OK stretching it out to 3 months. I was at the airport 4 days a week. I plan on getting the 10 month program sacked in 7 months. I am loving every minute of this. FYI I got my private 7/18 with 49 hours.

congrats man!! I got all my requirements done a little over 2 months after I started. I was at the airport 4 days a week aswell, but this last month has slowed to a snails pace. it's frustrating dealing with pop up thunderstorms and airplanes in maintenance. I have gone from 44 hours to 50 hours without accomplishing much. after my checkride, I will be right around 55 hours, but that's fine as long as I get it done. I was hoping to fly somewhere for the rest of the 55 hours, but it looks like there won't be much extra time left.

If you are doing the 90 day program at ATL, you will be there almost everyday.

I'm doing the self paced at ATP, but will be there about 4 days a week so I can try finish in about 5-7 months.