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Astra 05-14-2010 10:38 AM

Emergency manouvres training
 
I recently completed my PPL and I'd like to do some Emergency Manouvres training. I've heard about Attitude Aviation (near San Francisco), CP Aviation (Santa Paula, near LA), and Sunrise (also near LA). Anyone have experience or recommendations with these schools, especially for the Emergency Manouvres training?

USMCFLYR 05-14-2010 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Astra (Post 811464)
I recently completed my PPL and I'd like to do some Emergency Manouvres training. I've heard about Attitude Aviation (near San Francisco), CP Aviation (Santa Paula, near LA), and Sunrise (also near LA). Anyone have experience or recommendations with these schools, especially for the Emergency Manouvres training?

What specifically are you hoping to learn in the "Emergency Manouvers training"?

USMCFLYR

Grumble 05-14-2010 11:57 AM

Controls release, feet off rudders, speed breaks in...

Ooops, sorry. Hair triggered.

USMCFLYR 05-14-2010 01:33 PM

Aileron - FULL INTO turn needle
Rudder - FULL OPPOSITE turn needle
Stick - Neutral (to slightly aft)
.......
Oh man how hard it is to UNlearn procedures drilled so deep!

USMCFLYR

Grumble 05-14-2010 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 811564)
Aileron - FULL INTO turn needle
Rudder - FULL OPPOSITE turn needle
Stick - Neutral (to slightly aft)
.......
Oh man how hard it is to UNlearn procedures drilled so deep!

USMCFLYR

You've been out of the loop a while haven't you? It changed back in '06 or '07.
In a nut shell:
Let go of everything, boards in, throttle idle.

Command arrow present, lateral stick full with arrow.
Command arrow removed, lateral stick smoothly neut

6K AGL and still OCF? Give it back to the tax payers.

USMCFLYR 05-14-2010 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 811581)
You've been out of the loop a while haven't you? It changed back in '06 or '07.
In a nut shell:
Let go of everything, boards in, throttle idle.

Command arrow present, lateral stick full with arrow.
Command arrow removed, lateral stick smoothly neut

6K AGL and still OCF? Give it back to the tax payers.

:D No Grumble - I only retired in Jan!
As you say - "Let go of everything, boards in has always (at least during my time) been the beginning of the procedures - THEN if still out of control "Throttle - Idle"

In my post, I wasn't telling you the Hornet OCF.
I was saying that I have had to recently learn NEW OCF/Spin procedures - and that it is a hard thing to do after so many years and practice of saying the **old** stuff.
(Btw - I probably went through 4 or 5 iterations of the OCF/Falling Leaf/Spin procedures before finally coming to the current end product)
You can thank me and my safety shop (specifically the NATOPS Model Manager at the time) for those simplified procedures ;)

In any case - back to the OPs training. I've seen UPSET TRAINING (Unusual Attitude, Out of controlled flight, and Spin training) advertised at other flight schools and at some of those places that do the mock aerial combat experiences in AZ.

USMCFLYR

Grumble 05-14-2010 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 811596)
:D No Grumble - I only retired in Jan!

USMCFLYR

That's what I thought, wasn't sure when your last 18 flight was. So what a/c OCF are you learning now? (continue thread hijack)

USMCFLYR 05-14-2010 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 811607)
That's what I thought, wasn't sure when your last 18 flight was. So what a/c OCF are you learning now? (continue thread hijack)

Dec 18th - don't rub it in!!! :(
One that you REALLY have to fly :p

USMCFLYR

crosseyedpilot 05-17-2010 10:51 AM

I usually just sit in the plane and practice flows, instead of memorizing checklists. It makes the emergency procedures much more simplified. Go through them with an instructor and your time will be well spent


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