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Old 05-14-2010, 10:38 AM
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I recently completed my PPL and I'd like to do some Emergency Manouvres training. I've heard about Attitude Aviation (near San Francisco), CP Aviation (Santa Paula, near LA), and Sunrise (also near LA). Anyone have experience or recommendations with these schools, especially for the Emergency Manouvres training?
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I recently completed my PPL and I'd like to do some Emergency Manouvres training. I've heard about Attitude Aviation (near San Francisco), CP Aviation (Santa Paula, near LA), and Sunrise (also near LA). Anyone have experience or recommendations with these schools, especially for the Emergency Manouvres training?
What specifically are you hoping to learn in the "Emergency Manouvers training"?

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Controls release, feet off rudders, speed breaks in...

Ooops, sorry. Hair triggered.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:33 PM
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Aileron - FULL INTO turn needle
Rudder - FULL OPPOSITE turn needle
Stick - Neutral (to slightly aft)
.......
Oh man how hard it is to UNlearn procedures drilled so deep!

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Aileron - FULL INTO turn needle
Rudder - FULL OPPOSITE turn needle
Stick - Neutral (to slightly aft)
.......
Oh man how hard it is to UNlearn procedures drilled so deep!

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You've been out of the loop a while haven't you? It changed back in '06 or '07.
In a nut shell:
Let go of everything, boards in, throttle idle.

Command arrow present, lateral stick full with arrow.
Command arrow removed, lateral stick smoothly neut

6K AGL and still OCF? Give it back to the tax payers.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble View Post
You've been out of the loop a while haven't you? It changed back in '06 or '07.
In a nut shell:
Let go of everything, boards in, throttle idle.

Command arrow present, lateral stick full with arrow.
Command arrow removed, lateral stick smoothly neut

6K AGL and still OCF? Give it back to the tax payers.
No Grumble - I only retired in Jan!
As you say - "Let go of everything, boards in has always (at least during my time) been the beginning of the procedures - THEN if still out of control "Throttle - Idle"

In my post, I wasn't telling you the Hornet OCF.
I was saying that I have had to recently learn NEW OCF/Spin procedures - and that it is a hard thing to do after so many years and practice of saying the **old** stuff.
(Btw - I probably went through 4 or 5 iterations of the OCF/Falling Leaf/Spin procedures before finally coming to the current end product)
You can thank me and my safety shop (specifically the NATOPS Model Manager at the time) for those simplified procedures

In any case - back to the OPs training. I've seen UPSET TRAINING (Unusual Attitude, Out of controlled flight, and Spin training) advertised at other flight schools and at some of those places that do the mock aerial combat experiences in AZ.

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No Grumble - I only retired in Jan!

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That's what I thought, wasn't sure when your last 18 flight was. So what a/c OCF are you learning now? (continue thread hijack)
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That's what I thought, wasn't sure when your last 18 flight was. So what a/c OCF are you learning now? (continue thread hijack)
Dec 18th - don't rub it in!!!
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I usually just sit in the plane and practice flows, instead of memorizing checklists. It makes the emergency procedures much more simplified. Go through them with an instructor and your time will be well spent
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