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Old 10-02-2010 | 01:17 PM
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Thanks for all the advice...I've checked out clow before and it is a complete rip off. I wouldn't pay that much for a skyhawk even if it is that new...I found a flying club at KDPA with monthly dues of 28 a month, no equity buy in and a decent skyhawk for 80 wet/hobbs....I prefer hobbs more than tach personally speaking... 80 wet hobbs hour is pretty good, they also have a 150 @ 70 wet and an arrow at 90 wet.

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Old 10-05-2010 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by motormadness
The club at Clow is actually a rip off. Not to mention they have a couple people on that staff that are just downright rude.

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Old 10-06-2010 | 08:43 AM
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Ya that's news to me wish I knew which person they were referring to. Possibly and I mean really the only person I can think of is a desk clerk only.
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Old 10-06-2010 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AirSioux
Thanks for all the advice...I've checked out clow before and it is a complete rip off. I wouldn't pay that much for a skyhawk even if it is that new...I found a flying club at KDPA with monthly dues of 28 a month, no equity buy in and a decent skyhawk for 80 wet/hobbs....I prefer hobbs more than tach personally speaking... 80 wet hobbs hour is pretty good, they also have a 150 @ 70 wet and an arrow at 90 wet.

That said, I do appreciate all the help and comments, thanks again!
Are you referring to the FOX flying club if so there rates went up. Plus you do know you get more time being on the Tach?
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Old 10-07-2010 | 06:46 AM
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Air Sioux, if you need a syllabus and lesson plans AOPA gives them away. If you are new to Part 61 I would use them as a model and tailor them to your own needs. You may need to join AOPA to get access, but is not a ton of money and it is well worth it to be a member. Also, if you are teaching I would consider getting flight instructor's certificate insurance, it is something like $60 a year and AOPA has a legal insurance offer that is very competitive. That way you are able to get a lawyer on the line if your student causes you to be violated for rule breaking, or if he or she gets a violation and the feds come looking at your instruction work. If AOPA is not your thing, NAFI could do all this and it is probably as good or better.
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Old 10-12-2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AirSioux
Thanks for all the advice...I've checked out clow before and it is a complete rip off. I wouldn't pay that much for a skyhawk even if it is that new...I found a flying club at KDPA with monthly dues of 28 a month, no equity buy in and a decent skyhawk for 80 wet/hobbs....I prefer hobbs more than tach personally speaking... 80 wet hobbs hour is pretty good, they also have a 150 @ 70 wet and an arrow at 90 wet.

That said, I do appreciate all the help and comments, thanks again!

Chicagoland Aviation is a flying club based out of KLOT. The club rents off the tach. Prices are reasonable and the facility is great! Something for pretty much everyone....152's, 172's, 182's. Check them out. KLOT is one of Chicago's last best kept secrets!
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Old 10-13-2010 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CFItillIdie
Chicagoland Aviation is a flying club based out of KLOT. The club rents off the tach. Prices are reasonable and the facility is great! Something for pretty much everyone....152's, 172's, 182's. Check them out. KLOT is one of Chicago's last best kept secrets!

If flying out of KLOT and one flys with Chicagoland Aviation, that is one thing, but don't fly with Lewis University's Flight school. There are so many reasons that I can't list them all here, but so many people have dropped out of their flight program. Their rates are very high too. But yes, overall, LOT is a nice place to fly out of.
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Old 10-13-2010 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by motormadness
The club at Clow is actually a rip off. It's about $140 an hour for a Skyhawk. Yeah sure it equates to be like $120 an hour. However, if you only fly on weekends, the club membership will never work out. If you try and get their 152, good luck. You have to book that thing a few weeks in advance. Not to mention they have a couple people on that staff that are just downright rude. They also have an Archer, which is really probably the most disgusting cost per hour I've ever seen. It's $160 per tach hour.

Sorry but I need to disagree with you here. The 172R is $133 on the tach at 1C5, which equates to approximately 105/ hobbs hr, wet. Keep in mind, when you are in the landing pattern and on the ground, the tach is ticking VERY slowly. That being said, you save around 20%. 105/hr for a 172R is a good deal so I don't see how it would be a rip off, unless they charge and get you with the ground school charges and make you pay for 0.5 ground time for every lesson but im not sure if they do that or not.
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Old 10-20-2010 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by motormadness
The club at Clow is actually a rip off. It's about $140 an hour for a Skyhawk. Yeah sure it equates to be like $120 an hour. However, if you only fly on weekends, the club membership will never work out. If you try and get their 152, good luck. You have to book that thing a few weeks in advance. Not to mention they have a couple people on that staff that are just downright rude. They also have an Archer, which is really probably the most disgusting cost per hour I've ever seen. It's $160 per tach hour.
I totally agree! I went there to rent airplanes and also, on separate occasions, inquire about a CFI job. During these visits the guy that works behind the counter was less than cordial and deadpan when I was trying to joke with him and get him to crack a smile. The woman that works there (owner??) gave me much of the same responses.
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Old 10-23-2010 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by g4downin
I totally agree! I went there to rent airplanes and also, on separate occasions, inquire about a CFI job. During these visits the guy that works behind the counter was less than cordial and deadpan when I was trying to joke with him and get him to crack a smile. The woman that works there (owner??) gave me much of the same responses.
That's great for business I'm sure! Many people have similar stories!
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