Bascuela

I’m currently locked in a two year gig flight instructing. I don’t have too much else going on so I thought I might buckle down and get my ATP (multi). I would be getting it part 61. I’m familiar with the PTS but this is one check that you don’t hear too much about. Just looking for someone to shed some light and share their experience on a part 61 ATP check. Thanks.

rickair7777

It's basically a commercial-multi w/ instrument privileges. The performance standards are slightly tighter than commercial, but that's about it. Look at the PTS.

The oral could be very unpredictable depending on whether you do the 121 or 135 version, abd depending on the examiner's background. Best to do this one with an examiner you know.

You can remove some of the variables by doing it at one of the pilot factories like ATP, but you might be in unfamiliar airspace...obviously your local airspace provides a home-field advantage.

EngineOut

I did the same thing you want to do and it was involved, but not too hard with a little practice. Basically, it's all IR single engine stuff -- single engine missed approaches, two precision approaches, one (or two depending on the examiner) NP approaches, four landings, steep turns, takeoff under the hood, etc.

I agree, the PTS for the ATP is really hard to read. Quarter-scale deflection, +/- 100 feet on alt (even steep turns).

If you've been teaching (flying) the airplane you're using for the ride, you should be okay.

The oral is very different based on the examiner...mine was all systems and he didn't even mention the words "airline" or "passengers" or "cargo." Pretty sure the DEs have a ton of descretion on the ATP checkride from what I could glean from the PTS.

Good Luck!

Bascuela

Yeah the part 61 oral is a gray area. I'm assuming systems questions only apply to the aircraft that you're taking the check in. If anyone has a run down on their oral - that would give me idea. I agree that this one is really up to the DE.

ctd57

From personal experience, I have trainined over 30 ATP checkrides while working at ATP, every examiner that we use has basically the same oral. Every examiner has their own aviation questions that we can't teach you. Basically they have to do with your experience as a pilot and "what would you do if " type questions. The rest of the oral is based on aircraft systems. All of the 4 examiners we use at my location, 3 of them do 3 approaches, one guy does 4. They all do a variety of ILS,LOC, and GPS, no VOR. One of the non-presion is a SE Circle to Land, SE ILS to a land, and a missed approach of some type. The ride length varies between examiners, usually lasting 1.2-1.5 hours. It is a fairly easy ride, all stalls are recovered at the first sign of a stall, the horn, steep turns are no different than PVT multi standards, 45 degree AOB +/- 100', one examiner does slow flight +50/-0, others skip it. The stalls vary based on the examiner. But many people have come to ATP to do the 2 day ATP program having never flown a seminole or even a piston driven aircraft for that matter. The checkride is alot about being a safe pilot with a captain's mental attitude and thought process. I have had 3 checkride busts in 9 months, 1 guy couldn't remember how to do a proper mag check(never flew a piston), and the 2 others got lost in the Garmin 430. That is the hardest part for most people coming to us for the 2 day program. Anyway, the checkride is really straight forward, and pretty simple in my opinion.

esanche00

Does any one know information about check rides and oral in this days I'm trying to do it in a multi engine thx for your support

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JamesNoBrakes

You mean like from the standards?

TiredSoul

Enjoy
https://www.faa.gov/training_testing...ia/atp_acs.pdf