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Old 11-12-2010 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
If this is your long cross country for your commercial I'm fairly certain it needs to be done VFR not IFR.
This is my 250 n.m. cross country that's required for the IR with 3 different approaches. I have yet to do the one you were referring to.
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Old 11-12-2010 | 06:05 PM
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Thanks for the input gents. As of today I haven't had any actual IMC time so I am looking forward to getting some in the spring. I also fall into the lack of night flying category as of this date, and it is about time I get some night flying experience. Doing my long cross country tomorrow morning, time to get those approach plates ready. Take and thanks again for the responses.
This sentence struck a cord with me, where do you train? If you say anyplace other than the desert, then shame on your CFII for not trying to get you as much Actual time as possible. I always save that long dual ins x-c for a rainy day to get as much actual as possible. Additionally, whenever there is weather favorable to actual IMC we would plan a lesson for it. If you do get your INS without any actual I HIGHLY recommend no IMC until you can fly with either an experienced instrument pilot or a CFII. The hood just doesn't compare to the real thing.
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Old 11-12-2010 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fjetter
This sentence struck a cord with me, where do you train? If you say anyplace other than the desert, then shame on your CFII for not trying to get you as much Actual time as possible. I always save that long dual ins x-c for a rainy day to get as much actual as possible. Additionally, whenever there is weather favorable to actual IMC we would plan a lesson for it. If you do get your INS without any actual I HIGHLY recommend no IMC until you can fly with either an experienced instrument pilot or a CFII. The hood just doesn't compare to the real thing.
Believe me, I know exactly what you mean. I can imagine that flying in actual IMC is nothing compared to being under the hood. It's not that my CFII and I've been avoiding flying in IMC, it's just bad timing and with the cold weather we are forced to stay out of icing etc. But during my time building, I am very much determined to get with a CFI and get some IMC experience...Thanks and yes I will of course stay away from real IMC without having prior experience.
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Old 11-13-2010 | 03:55 PM
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Believe me, I know exactly what you mean. I can imagine that flying in actual IMC is nothing compared to being under the hood. It's not that my CFII and I've been avoiding flying in IMC, it's just bad timing and with the cold weather we are forced to stay out of icing etc. But during my time building, I am very much determined to get with a CFI and get some IMC experience...Thanks and yes I will of course stay away from real IMC without having prior experience.
Ok sounds like you got your head right on that just felt it was an obligation to say something. Ice certainly isn't something to be played with and didn't want you to get shorted on your training.
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Old 11-15-2010 | 01:41 PM
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Pearl,

I have recommended 26 people for checkrides in the last 3 years, with over half of them being commercial single engine and multi engine. That being said, here is my opinion.

You have 2 options. Those being Part 141 and Part 61. With Part 141 you can actually get your commercial with as little as 195 hours (I think), but I don't know what the cost usually runs. That being the case, you could move directly from your instrument training into your commercial single enging training. I do NOT recommend this route because you will not have enough decision making experience. The first 25 hours by yourself after your instrument are crucial to your development as a pilot. So...

Your next option is to do it Part 61 at a local place. Make sure you comply with the required solo flying requirements before you get to 235 hours. You have to have 10 hours of complex training, and you have to do the checkride in a complex, unless you have a commercial multi engine that was done in a complex. It takes an average of 15 to 20 hours to learn the manuevers to PTS. I have had people do it in 10, and I have had them do it in over 30. It really depends on their level of commitment to learning the profiles prior to getting in the plane. Start your commercial at 235 hours total time. Do it in an Arrow or a Gutless Cutless, since you probably will be able to find one of those reasonably priced. Don't get your multi until after you get your commercial ASEL. That way you only have to do one multi engine checkride (commercial add on), not two (private and commercial). The instructor and DPE cost savings will allow you to build a few more multi hours after you get the rating. My best prepared student did the Commercial single engine in 4 days, and was ready before he hit 10 hours.

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Old 11-15-2010 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Pearl,

I have recommended 26 people for checkrides in the last 3 years, with over half of them being commercial single engine and multi engine. That being said, here is my opinion.

You have 2 options. Those being Part 141 and Part 61. With Part 141 you can actually get your commercial with as little as 195 hours (I think), but I don't know what the cost usually runs. That being the case, you could move directly from your instrument training into your commercial single enging training. I do NOT recommend this route because you will not have enough decision making experience. The first 25 hours by yourself after your instrument are crucial to your development as a pilot. So...

Your next option is to do it Part 61 at a local place. Make sure you comply with the required solo flying requirements before you get to 235 hours. You have to have 10 hours of complex training, and you have to do the checkride in a complex, unless you have a commercial multi engine that was done in a complex. It takes an average of 15 to 20 hours to learn the manuevers to PTS. I have had people do it in 10, and I have had them do it in over 30. It really depends on their level of commitment to learning the profiles prior to getting in the plane. Start your commercial at 235 hours total time. Do it in an Arrow or a Gutless Cutless, since you probably will be able to find one of those reasonably priced. Don't get your multi until after you get your commercial ASEL. That way you only have to do one multi engine checkride (commercial add on), not two (private and commercial). The instructor and DPE cost savings will allow you to build a few more multi hours after you get the rating. My best prepared student did the Commercial single engine in 4 days, and was ready before he hit 10 hours.

Most of all, have fun! That's why we fly!
Thanks a lot. This makes a lot of sense now. I am planning on doing some cross countries after I get my IR. And also when I have about 220 hours or so, I could start on my commercial maneuvers with a CFI. In fact there is a gutless cutlass that I plan on renting for $135/hour for my commercial. Thanks again!
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