Logbook Entries for Checkrides??
05-02-2011, 11:33 PM
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Logbook Entries for Checkrides??
I recently passed my CFI, II and MEI rides and I'm adding up my logbook and I noticed that the examiners logged the time for those rides in three different ways:
When I took my initial the examiner logged the time in the 'As Flight Instructor' column.
Then for the CFII that examiner wrote the time into the 'Dual Received' column (which I know isn't correct.)
Then for the SE add-on the examiner (same one as my II ride) left both the 'As Flight Instructor' and 'Dual Received' columns blank.
So, which way is it supposed to be logged in my logbook? And should I cross out/correct what the examiner wrote in there?
When I took my initial the examiner logged the time in the 'As Flight Instructor' column.
Then for the CFII that examiner wrote the time into the 'Dual Received' column (which I know isn't correct.)
Then for the SE add-on the examiner (same one as my II ride) left both the 'As Flight Instructor' and 'Dual Received' columns blank.
So, which way is it supposed to be logged in my logbook? And should I cross out/correct what the examiner wrote in there?
05-03-2011, 03:42 AM
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It's really not dual since it's not supposed to be an instructional flight. The pilot being examined is technically the PIC on the flight with the Examiner as passenger (the reason for the removal of passenger-carrying limitations in the regs).
Interestingly enough, there really is no 61.51basis for the trainee to log anything on the checkride but the tradition through the years (with no complaint from the FAA) is for the trainee to log PIC time.
Interestingly enough, there really is no 61.51basis for the trainee to log anything on the checkride but the tradition through the years (with no complaint from the FAA) is for the trainee to log PIC time.
05-03-2011, 03:51 AM
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PIC for all checkrides from private on up.
Unless something has changed from when I did my initial CFI with the feds, the examiner gives the statement "in the event that something happens, you're the PIC, you will fly and I'll do whatever you would like for me to help you".
Unless something has changed from when I did my initial CFI with the feds, the examiner gives the statement "in the event that something happens, you're the PIC, you will fly and I'll do whatever you would like for me to help you".
05-03-2011, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NoyGonnaDoIt
It's really not dual since it's not supposed to be an instructional flight. The pilot being examined is technically the PIC on the flight with the Examiner as passenger (the reason for the removal of passenger-carrying limitations in the regs).
Interestingly enough, there really is no 61.51basis for the trainee to log anything on the checkride but the tradition through the years (with no complaint from the FAA) is for the trainee to log PIC time.
Interestingly enough, there really is no 61.51basis for the trainee to log anything on the checkride but the tradition through the years (with no complaint from the FAA) is for the trainee to log PIC time.
05-03-2011, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
When did they remove the passenger carrying thing?
Did you misunderstand my post? The removal of passenger-carrying limitations only applies to the checkride. It's not a generic "student and non-rated solo pilots may now carry passengers," which would definitely be a BIG surprise.
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