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Originally Posted by lstorm2003
(Post 1018327)
So does it cause any problem for me to log actual IMC despite the fact that i was not operating on an IFR flight plan and an IFR clearance?
I am not entirely sure, I doubt it. Consider this question: can you fly in IMC in uncontrolled airspace (no flight plan required) and log the instrument time? |
Originally Posted by lstorm2003
(Post 1018327)
So does it cause any problem for me to log actual IMC despite the fact that i was not operating on an IFR flight plan and an IFR clearance?
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What class airspace were you in? G?
There are many debates on the subject, but I believe you can legally fly (and log) in IMC in uncontrolled airspace; obviously without the clearence. It is a completely differnet discussion as to whether that is a good idea or not. |
Originally Posted by jcaplins
(Post 1019028)
What class airspace were you in? G?
There are many debates on the subject, but I believe you can legally fly (and log) in IMC in uncontrolled airspace; obviously without the clearence. It is a completely differnet discussion as to whether that is a good idea or not. "Many pilots do not know that IFR flight without a aircraft is equipped for instrument flight."clearance is permitted in uncontrolled airspace, provided that the pilot is instrument-rated and the BTW I was in Class E airspace... |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 1018929)
Does your logbook have a column for what type flight plan you filed? Now logging actual without an instrument ticket... that could pose problems.
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Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 1018163)
Now you know what happened to JFK Jr. Overwater flight, day or night, is not really a place for the non-instrument rated. If you think that's dark, try 1800 miles off shore at 1200' under an over cast on a moonless night. You may as well just paint the windows black, you'd never know the difference.
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Originally Posted by p3gator
(Post 1019175)
What were you doing up that high at 1200'? :)
Enjoy that dissasociated sea tour! :D |
Marshall radial, what marshall radial?
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 1019286)
Trying to land on the boat, not stay off of it bragging about per diem!
Enjoy that dissasociated sea tour! :D |
Originally Posted by p3gator
(Post 1019300)
I did enjoy my disassociated sea tour :), I lucked out flying the mighty Orion instead of going to the boat, and they still made me a DH, go figure. Per diem ain't what it used to be when you live in a tent or a CLU through deployment. Oh well.
USMCFLYR |
lstorm2003
First, it is NOT possible to get a clearance in Class G airspace--ATC doesn't have authority in Class G, it is uncontrolled. Indeed, one can fly IFR in Class G, done all the time in parts of Canada, Australia, most of Africa. Second, night VFR still requires the pilot to see and avoid clouds, not easy and an argument for flying IFR. Third, yes you can refuse the ATC clearance if it puts over water, BUT ATC cannot issue a clearance that puts you in Special Use Airspace which is common in the Gulf, NAS Key West, for example. Might try filing to Marathon and then refiling to FLL, but changing destination might be frowned upon in today's security world. The problem is the routing you want is thru MIA Approach and the ATC LOA probably requires a routing west of it. I know I've never approached the NAS from anywhere other than over Ft Myers vicinity or departed northbound any other way. GF |
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