ATPL for non-citizen?
09-27-2006, 09:04 PM
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ATPL for non-citizen?
I've done some research on ATPL's. I'm not a citizen but do reside here in the good ol' U.S. and A. Now i've been hearing from people that I couldnt get an ATPL until I get my american passport, and some people have told me to register with the TSA (Transportation Security Administration)..... Any enlightment would be greatly appriciated.
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09-28-2006, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by fatlazypilot
I've done some research on ATPL's. I'm not a citizen but do reside here in the good ol' U.S. and A. Now i've been hearing from people that I couldnt get an ATPL until I get my american passport, and some people have told me to register with the TSA (Transportation Security Administration)..... Any enlightment would be greatly appriciated.
Are your licenses FAA, and have you ever trained in the US. If so, it won't be a problem. I have instructed a couple of foreign pilots. One guy from Norway who did all of his training in the US, wasn't a citizen, had a green card and all of his certificates were FAA. If that is your situation, you shouldn't have any problems getting your ATP. If you have foreign licenses, and are not a citizen, than you need to contact the TSA, and get a letter from the country where you got your licenses proving that they are legit, and you will also need a letter from the FAA saying that they understand that your foreign licenses are legit. Honestly the best thing to do is call the local Flight Standards District Office and tell them your situation. You can find their phone numbers for your location at www.faa.gov I believe.
09-28-2006, 06:43 AM
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Are your licenses FAA, and have you ever trained in the US. If so, it won't be a problem. I have instructed a couple of foreign pilots. One guy from Norway who did all of his training in the US, wasn't a citizen, had a green card and all of his certificates were FAA. If that is your situation, you shouldn't have any problems getting your ATP. If you have foreign licenses, and are not a citizen, than you need to contact the TSA, and get a letter from the country where you got your licenses proving that they are legit, and you will also need a letter from the FAA saying that they understand that your foreign licenses are legit. Honestly the best thing to do is call the local Flight Standards District Office and tell them your situation. You can find their phone numbers for your location at www.faa.gov I believe.
Another question, I know that I'll need atleast 1500 TT to get the actual ATPL certification.... Now for ATPLw, I know I can do that right after my 21st birthday. Ok this might sound a little dumb but, is my ATPLw going to be a "FROZEN" one until I turn 23, exceed 1500 TT, and finish the rest of the ATPL process?
thanks in advance.
09-28-2006, 09:05 AM
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Are you going to ATP? I am a flight instructor there if you are. From your 90 day talk, it sounded like you are. Your written expires 2 years after you take it, unless you continuously work for a 121 carrier and upgrade at a 121carrier. If you take your ATPw, and don't work at a 135 or 121 carrier, i.e. you flight instruct for 2 years, it will expire. I wouldn't take the ATP just because I was 21, I would wait until you are getting ready to apply to an airline.
09-28-2006, 10:37 AM
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Naw not ATP I've heard alot of good story's about you guys but Im all the way out Iowa/Illinois, planning on going to midwestflightacademy.com in Dekalb, Illinois. I've already toured the school and went on an intro flight. And the CFI's there are good people.
About the ATPLw I've always thought that it would make an better impression when applying at the regionals or in europe. I'm turning 20 this january and im not even planing on applying anywhere until I turn 21 and get my associates degree. And yes hopefully someday I'll be working strictly 121. thanks ctd57.
About the ATPLw I've always thought that it would make an better impression when applying at the regionals or in europe. I'm turning 20 this january and im not even planing on applying anywhere until I turn 21 and get my associates degree. And yes hopefully someday I'll be working strictly 121. thanks ctd57.
09-29-2006, 09:22 AM
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Just a note, ATPL is an European licence, ATP is the FAA one. If you read 61.153 there is no requirement to hold an American Passport, so that should answer that, as far as taking your written, it is a good idea to have it before an interview, but you also want to retain its knoledge, if too much time elapses you might forget most of the data, so it could e better to take it closer to interview time and use it as a study aid. If you can, take your ATP on the plane you are instructing, it will be by far the easier plane on witch you will have the most experience, unless you want to wait until you upgrade at a regional.
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