Flying in snow
01-12-2012, 06:52 AM
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Snow is KNOWN ICING. Look at your TCDS or POH it will be very clear if the aircraft is approved or not.
Don't play around with your life like that. Generally, the most conservative route is the best one to take. If you are seeing snow you are or very close to freezing temps. You never know, there could be super cooled water droplets in the area adhering to your aircraft. Just because you were lucky once, doesn't mean you should add it to your SOP's. I would hate to see something tragic happen...please follow your aircraft manual.
01-12-2012, 07:33 AM
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Im with you on that V1. As far as looking at a Poh remember a lot of ga planes out there don't provide that info not all planes were made past the 90s lol. Just puting that out there. This is a good topic people.
01-12-2012, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chutchcroft
Snow is KNOWN ICING. Look at your TCDS or POH it will be very clear if the aircraft is approved or not.
Originally Posted by Past V1
^^^THIS!!!!
Don't play around with your life like that. Generally, the most conservative route is the best one to take. If you are seeing snow you are or very close to freezing temps. You never know, there could be super cooled water droplets in the area adhering to your aircraft. Just because you were lucky once, doesn't mean you should add it to your SOP's. I would hate to see something tragic happen...please follow your aircraft manual.
Don't play around with your life like that. Generally, the most conservative route is the best one to take. If you are seeing snow you are or very close to freezing temps. You never know, there could be super cooled water droplets in the area adhering to your aircraft. Just because you were lucky once, doesn't mean you should add it to your SOP's. I would hate to see something tragic happen...please follow your aircraft manual.
"The FAA does not necessarily consider the mere presence of clouds (Which may contain only ice crystals) or other forms of visible moisture at or below freezing to be conducive to the formation of known ice or to constitute known icing conditions."
http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2009/090126icing.pdf
It's not as black and white as it is for us in 121. For part 91 operations, according to the FAA, Snow is not necessarily known ice, by itself.
01-12-2012, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by detpilot
Not quite. From the most recent letter of interpretation from the FAA,
"The FAA does not necessarily consider the mere presence of clouds (Which may contain only ice crystals) or other forms of visible moisture at or below freezing to be conducive to the formation of known ice or to constitute known icing conditions."
http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2009/090126icing.pdf
It's not as black and white as it is for us in 121. For part 91 operations, according to the FAA, Snow is not necessarily known ice, by itself.
"The FAA does not necessarily consider the mere presence of clouds (Which may contain only ice crystals) or other forms of visible moisture at or below freezing to be conducive to the formation of known ice or to constitute known icing conditions."
http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2009/090126icing.pdf
It's not as black and white as it is for us in 121. For part 91 operations, according to the FAA, Snow is not necessarily known ice, by itself.
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