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Old 10-23-2006 | 01:49 PM
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What is the name of ATP so I can look at it? I toured the delta academy and was pretty impressed but have had second thoughts since reading these threads.
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Old 10-23-2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MileHighMama
I really don't need the money after I get a job so it's more just because I love flying....
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Also, be aware that many folks are trying to feed/support their families on regional airline pay, and the last thing they want to hear is a newbie say is "I don't need money, I just like to fly"...every person who arrives in the industry with that attitude lowers the compensation bar for the rest of us. I'm more or less in the same boat as you, but if I'm going to go to work, I might as well get paid as much as I can! Your financial situation will allow you to comfortably pursue your training, but PLEASE do not acquire a job simply because you are willing to work for less money than anyone else. Stay away from mesa, freedom, and gojets, etc. The pilots who jump on the real bottom-feeder opportunities are not highly regarded by their peers in the industry.
Thanks for that, the only thing I would add is if you're approaching an airline career as a hobby you need to seriously rethink what you're doing.

If you want to fly because you love it - rent or buy an airplane, you'll be MUCH happier.
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Old 10-23-2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pdavis4
What is the name of ATP so I can look at it? I toured the delta academy and was pretty impressed but have had second thoughts since reading these threads.
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www.allatps.com


You won't go wrong...A number of people on here can let you know which one of the locations is better than the others...I hear the Atlanta one is one of the better ones...Please do some more research before going down...


Good luck...
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Old 10-24-2006 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HSLD
If you want to fly because you love it - rent or buy an airplane, you'll be MUCH happier.
What is your opinion about being a sport pilot? I know that's probably a horrible question to pose on a forum full of testosterone-jazzed pilots, but I know my limitations and trust me, no two-bit, chump airline wants someone like me. I'd be arguing with management instead of flying!

Cessna has a light sport aircraft (LSA) called the, what else, Cessna Sport. The news release says "The Cessna Sport features a 30-foot wingspan, side-by-side seating in a 48-inch wide cabin, tricycle gear, and a 100-hp Rotax 912S engine. It has dual control sticks, upward opening doors, toe brakes, and a castering nose wheel. Construction is primarily of aluminum, with selective use of composite parts for the cowl, wing and dorsal fin."
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Old 10-24-2006 | 07:41 PM
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I used ALLATPS for my CFI-I and MEI checkrides and found them usefull. I did not go there to learn to be a CFII or MEI, I did that at my FBO. But they did a fine job of getting me to pass the checkride on a set schedule. I paid a premium for that service, but I found it usefull.

My impression of thier career program is that it is also priced at a premium, and in 90 days you're not going to learn how to not kill yourself with your shiny new tickets.

ALLATPS is the best career program I'm aware of.
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Old 10-24-2006 | 07:55 PM
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For the money, it's www.atpflightschool.com all the way. You can't go wrong.

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Old 10-25-2006 | 03:41 AM
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Old 10-25-2006 | 03:43 AM
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Out of all the academies I have heard of DCA is consistently voted the worst by most people. Do some more research on other alternatives. I would stay away from DCA.
No, do NOT do the Delta Connection Academy in Sanford, FL (just north of Orlando). They are WAAAAY over priced and their fleet is old and beat up. Add on hurricanes and summer thunderstorms and you'd find youself flying a whole LOT less than what they'll throw at you on the "free" tour, if you do it. Trust me, I did my CFI/II there and made it through the Standz class and was hired as an instructor. I did it for a couple of months, but at $10/hr, I just couldn't make it and, thankfully, soon after a much, much better (lucrative) opportunity arose. At DCA, you'd have no fun in spending a 10 hour day having flights cancelled for weather/maintenance and doing paper work and not making a friggin' dime. $10/hr is only for flight, sim, and limited ground work (that may have changed a little since I was there last year as they were pushing for their first raise in something like 15 years). Plus, the management/bean counters are complete buffoons. And that's not just from me. Ask any other instructor that been there at least a few months. They are all treated like complete crap and DCA constantly holds "the B/S guaranteed interview" over their heads. Basically, if you stand up for anything that's right or would improve quality of life/operations, be prepared to have your head shot off... Also, you do NOT need the "guaranteed interview"...just put your time in and apply when you reach the required mins...you'll get the interview just fine. You are severely mistaken if you think DCA guarantees or would promise you a spot at a regional--read their propaganda again closely. Not the case at all...only the interview is "somewhat" guaranteed and that sometimes comes a LONG time after you've already met their flight instructing minimums (600 single and 200 multi dual given--some guys weren't getting interviews until 1200+ hours). You'll get the interview, but it's up to YOU to get hired and make it through FO taining.
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