Thedude

I think you may be a little confused. Riddle has been a part 141 school for as long as I can remember and was when I graduated in '93.
A part 142 school is a training center. Mainly like FlightSafety, Simulflite etc. they usually do training for type ratings or are contracted out to do airline training.
I think the 142 school may have come about when the B-737 and B-1900 sim showed up on campus but I dont think Riddle had much to do with them other than they where on Riddle property. My understanding was they actually were owned and operated by FlightSaftey. And back in the fall of 2000 they had not reached the certification to do type ratings.
Glad to see Riddle has finally seen the value of mutli time. When I graduated I had a whopping 7 hrs multi and that included the checkride.

ERAUdude

Currently I have like 105/15, by the time I finish my instrument course, I should have 140/50. I don't know what the minimums are for the commercial multi/single, and CFI but I'm guessing it should put me around 300/70. I hate how the single engine portion has you in the sim as much as the airplane. In the multi part though, we get more airplane time than sim. With the 142 mix up, I know the PRC campus is not. We have an A320 sim, but no type rating. I'm not 100% sure, but I think DAB has type rating training for the 1900. Any Riddle students out there, help me out.

Uncle Bose

I'd go back home if I were you. Between rent and student loan payments starting up six months after graduating, life could get pretty miserable.
At the very least, get your CFI tickets somewhere other than ERAU. They charge around $13K for CFI and CFI-I. I wouldn't even remotely consider the 1900 type, or anything to do with monkeying around in the A320 sim.
The #1 advantage to instructing at ERAU is a steady flow of students. No waiting around like a used car salesman for new victims at some run-down FBO. Have you asked any instructors there how many hours they average in a month?
#2 is the tuition waiver available to full-time employees. This waiver allows you to take 6 courses per year (2 per term).
Whether or not their MBA is worth anything is another matter...

ERAU_IP406

OK...Riddle is now a 142 Training Center. All that means is that they can use the FAA approved Level-6 training devices for flight training. Not much changes because of this, except that it is scary as hell soloing students with something like 8 hours flight time and 10 hours in a simulator! The DAB campus does not have a 1900 sim, nor do we offer any type ratings. We currently have a Level-6 CRJ-200 sim, and the only thing I have noticed that will do for you is knock down (significantly) the minimums for some regional carriers. As far as instructing at Riddle...it can't be beat. I never have to find my own students and never do I go without a full day's work. If I have a student doing a solo, or maybe sick, then all I have to do is tell my boss and an hour later that hole in my schedule is filled. In regards to the issue you seem to be having with getting the multi upgrade: flight time and sim time may both be logged as dual given. This is not flight time or total time, but it is dual given, so your hours do add up quickly. So IMO, stay and instruct at Riddle. I even started part time when I was a junior, and you can't beat the guarnteed spot as a full time employee when you graduate. Hope this helps clear some things up for you, and good luck withh all your training.

~Matt

Thedude

That makes absoulty no sense. How do your hours add up quickly if it does not relate to total time. TT is what everbody is interested in not dual given or dual received. Sim time is sim time and is good only to meet currency reqirements and should only be logged only in the sim coulum.

Uncle Bose

"In regards to the issue you seem to be having with getting the multi upgrade: ..."

ERAU_IP406

I think you need to freshen up on your FAR's as far as logging dual recieved and dual given. It does not only apply to the airplane! I wasn't talking about getting the hours to go to an airline. The time that most CFI employers base upgrades on is dual given, and this is true for ERAU, so he would be able to get his Multi-upgrade soon.

ERAUdude

ERAU IP406, that helps a lot! Thanks for the input. I only asked about going to an FBO if the MEI is easier to get. Other than that, I know the steady student flow. Now that I know sim can also count towards dual given will influence my decision a lot. Thanks again.

Thedude

ME thinks you have been sucking on the Riddle bong a little to long. Addmittly I haven't had a CFI in about 10 yrs but I do know that sim time is pretty much worthless. At my first CFI job, the main 2 question were how much TT do you have and how much dual given and that was at one of the bigger pilot factories in south FL. When you go to get a real job, some airlines/operators will make you break out dual given and in some cases even subtract that from you TT and/or PIC time. Knowing how some of the Riddle-isms work, teaching in larger aircraft is usually dictated by the insurance compaines but then again Riddle is a different world. And that being part of the reason I would not encourage anyone to instruct at Riddle that graduated form there. Most of the guys have ZERO real world experience other than Riddle and that tends to work against them when moving on.

Please dont call it upgrade when moving from one type of a/c to another, that is a term used when upgrading from one seat to another such a f/o to capt. Its usually called transition but I am not sure that even relates to the CFI world.

ERAUdude

Thedude, he's not talking about logging sim time as TT. He's telling me that I can use sim time as dual given to log into building time for the MEI. Riddle lets us log sim time as TT, but not many people do it, including myself.