"Green" Instructor...Sigh
#11
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: C150|Student
Posts: 17
All the advice given here has been excellent so far..Just for reference, I'm doing the training PPL Part 61...Ive had some training and have an understanding of what's going on with the aircraft etc.
To be fair, I understand where the new young instructor is coming from as he basically maybe wants to get a feel FOR HIMSELF of what I can/cannot do.
It's like this...I'm being run thru things that I already went thru lol I have already passed my FAA written and have my Medical all before coming to the school, Feels like im going thru a loop! *pulls out hair* think I should just be focusing on mastering my skills IN THE AIR and preparing to solo and move forward.
That 1 lesson with the first more mature instructor just felt right, certain things were explained better, the instructor was humorous and got the point across, and the more hands on fundamental with the instructor actually trusting your ability to carry out tasks in and outside the aircraft...IMO it all helps the student build confidence, there was no tension it was FUN but at the same time...You Learn!.... so I'm gonna explore my options some more as advised before I get too far in
To be fair, I understand where the new young instructor is coming from as he basically maybe wants to get a feel FOR HIMSELF of what I can/cannot do.
It's like this...I'm being run thru things that I already went thru lol I have already passed my FAA written and have my Medical all before coming to the school, Feels like im going thru a loop! *pulls out hair* think I should just be focusing on mastering my skills IN THE AIR and preparing to solo and move forward.
That 1 lesson with the first more mature instructor just felt right, certain things were explained better, the instructor was humorous and got the point across, and the more hands on fundamental with the instructor actually trusting your ability to carry out tasks in and outside the aircraft...IMO it all helps the student build confidence, there was no tension it was FUN but at the same time...You Learn!.... so I'm gonna explore my options some more as advised before I get too far in
#12
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Cessna 150 Left seat
Posts: 430
I've been Instructing for the past 12 years.
My students always have the right to change instructors and I let them know of that at the beginning. It's their right.
HOWEVER, I would be very reluctant in being someone's 3rd or 4th instructor during their PPL license. Let's face it, if you have to go thru handful of instructors, the problem isn't the instructors. Yes there are exceptions to this such as instructor leaving the school or simply a poor match between the CFI and student.
When we have a student in our school on their 3rd/4th instructor for a SINGLE license, some of us CFI simply ask "what's the problem with the student?"
My students always have the right to change instructors and I let them know of that at the beginning. It's their right.
HOWEVER, I would be very reluctant in being someone's 3rd or 4th instructor during their PPL license. Let's face it, if you have to go thru handful of instructors, the problem isn't the instructors. Yes there are exceptions to this such as instructor leaving the school or simply a poor match between the CFI and student.
When we have a student in our school on their 3rd/4th instructor for a SINGLE license, some of us CFI simply ask "what's the problem with the student?"
#13
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: C150|Student
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HOWEVER, I would be very reluctant in being someone's 3rd or 4th instructor during their PPL license. Let's face it, if you have to go thru handful of instructors, the problem isn't the instructors. Yes there are exceptions to this such as instructor leaving the school or simply a poor match between the CFI and student.
When we have a student in our school on their 3rd/4th instructor for a SINGLE license, some of us CFI simply ask "what's the problem with the student?"
When we have a student in our school on their 3rd/4th instructor for a SINGLE license, some of us CFI simply ask "what's the problem with the student?"
#14
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 480
If you are pre-solo, the absolute minimum is you getting yourself to a point where yuo can use all the checklists, have a good working knowledge of why every checklist item is the way it is, and the instructor (after a couple flights) should sit quietly while you take them from a cold start to the practice area, only stepping in to help look for traffic, offer random pointers and ocassionally help with difficult radio calls. In the last few flights before your actual solo, your instructor should be nearly silent except for critiques after your performances.
Intro flights should be the last time an instructor is doing the majority of the work, because CFIs aim to only introduce you to how awesome flying is, and on an intro flight it doesn't matter if you can explain how and why we check magnetos.
Give him a few more chances. If he still insists on doing everything on your 3rd lesson, ditch him fast AND evaluate yourself to make sure you're meeting him in the middle.
Intro flights should be the last time an instructor is doing the majority of the work, because CFIs aim to only introduce you to how awesome flying is, and on an intro flight it doesn't matter if you can explain how and why we check magnetos.
Give him a few more chances. If he still insists on doing everything on your 3rd lesson, ditch him fast AND evaluate yourself to make sure you're meeting him in the middle.
#15
I am kinda playing devils advocate. But when I am teaching a new student the first 5 lessons or so I was much more hands on. Also at about 10 hrs I like to send my students up with a different CFI. Gives the student a confidence boost. And lets them show what they have learned. I would normal ask the other CFI to be as hands off as possible.
I have over 800hr dual given.
I have over 800hr dual given.
#16
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 215
My instructor is younger than me and has only 300 hours instructing, but he is fantastic. Great teacher and excellent at constructive criticism. He is patient, yet firm, with his students. Some people have a knack for teaching, and some don't.
All in all, it is your money and your education, which is very important. You can choose any instructor you want.
All in all, it is your money and your education, which is very important. You can choose any instructor you want.
#17
Personality Types play a huge role in how well a student-teacher relationship will unfold, and in turn how much the student will recall and hence learn at the end of a lesson. Uneasiness caused by an instructor can also narrow your perceptual field, and hamper your progress with learning what you really ought to know.
If you feel that one instructor is helping you to relax and be at ease more than an other, then I reckon that you've made the right choice by switching.
I have a feeling that this green CFI is just uptight because he hasn't had much experience. That can play a big part.
If you feel that one instructor is helping you to relax and be at ease more than an other, then I reckon that you've made the right choice by switching.
I have a feeling that this green CFI is just uptight because he hasn't had much experience. That can play a big part.