to be or not to be
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For the last few day I have been struggling with the decision on whether to stay in the military or get out and pursuit my dream of become an airline pilot. Am a currently 29 years old, single with no kids, and have a BS in Business. I have been literally glue to the internet for days trying to do my research to help me make the right decision. From what I have read in articles and forums, all the signs point to staying in the military. But event-though the wage suck, quality of life decrease substantially and I’ll be in huge debt from flight school loans, somehow I still would like to pursuit this dream. I finally came to the conclusion that pilots are either stupid or crazy; stupid in the sense that they had no idea what they were getting themselves into or crazy in the sense that they knew what they were getting into but did it anyway. To be honest I think I might be crazy enough to go for it.
My biggest concern at the moment is the cost of flight school. From what I have notice, the entire profession pilot training program range from 70,000 to 100,000. Am worry that that I won’t be able to pay that amount back making 20,000 a year
The question I have is; have any of you knowing know the risks you were taking and did it pay off (it doesn’t have to be monetary)
Do any of you know of or would recommend National Aviation Academy flight training program? The program is 19 month and cost 79,000. By the time your finish you’ll have all the rating plus complete your ATP written plus 400-500 actually aircraft hours
My biggest concern at the moment is the cost of flight school. From what I have notice, the entire profession pilot training program range from 70,000 to 100,000. Am worry that that I won’t be able to pay that amount back making 20,000 a year
The question I have is; have any of you knowing know the risks you were taking and did it pay off (it doesn’t have to be monetary)
Do any of you know of or would recommend National Aviation Academy flight training program? The program is 19 month and cost 79,000. By the time your finish you’ll have all the rating plus complete your ATP written plus 400-500 actually aircraft hours
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Were you drinking while writing this, perchance? I ask because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to the myriad grammatical and spelling errors. Typos perhaps...
What is it about this career that makes it your dream? Where do you see yourself in 5-10 years after stepping down this path?
And no, it absolutely has not paid off. It has caused me near financial ruin, stress beyond belief, the choice to postpone having children until my late 30's (which I still haven't due to responsible financial reasons), loss of work (furlough), and a vehement hate for the industry that makes it hard to ever have a positive/optimistic outlook regarding anything with wings.
I've had the opportunity to travel A LOT for both business and personal trips. That's been the best part. It's not worth it though. I would go back in time and tell myself all of this if I could.
What is it about this career that makes it your dream? Where do you see yourself in 5-10 years after stepping down this path?
And no, it absolutely has not paid off. It has caused me near financial ruin, stress beyond belief, the choice to postpone having children until my late 30's (which I still haven't due to responsible financial reasons), loss of work (furlough), and a vehement hate for the industry that makes it hard to ever have a positive/optimistic outlook regarding anything with wings.
I've had the opportunity to travel A LOT for both business and personal trips. That's been the best part. It's not worth it though. I would go back in time and tell myself all of this if I could.
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Most of us realize how crazy this idea is now.
You won't be paying off 70-100K, it'll be at least 100-140K with interest. Think of what you can do with that money?
By far the best idea if you still want to get into the game is to get a decent job, scrape by and go to flight school while working or when you can. The value of this is huge in terms of not being under the burden of debt.
It sounds like you love flying. Have you ever stopped and asked yourself if "love flying"=airline pilot? As if airline pilots are the only people that can love flying?
As far as national academy, it has the word "national", so it must be good.
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Were you drinking while writing this, perchance? I ask because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to the myriad grammatical and spelling errors. Typos perhaps...
What is it about this career that makes it your dream? Where do you see yourself in 5-10 years after stepping down this path?
And no, it absolutely has not paid off. It has caused me near financial ruin, stress beyond belief, the choice to postpone having children until my late 30's (which I still haven't due to responsible financial reasons), loss of work (furlough), and a vehement hate for the industry that makes it hard to ever have a positive/optimistic outlook regarding anything with wings.
I've had the opportunity to travel A LOT for both business and personal trips. That's been the best part. It's not worth it though. I would go back in time and tell myself all of this if I could.
What is it about this career that makes it your dream? Where do you see yourself in 5-10 years after stepping down this path?
And no, it absolutely has not paid off. It has caused me near financial ruin, stress beyond belief, the choice to postpone having children until my late 30's (which I still haven't due to responsible financial reasons), loss of work (furlough), and a vehement hate for the industry that makes it hard to ever have a positive/optimistic outlook regarding anything with wings.
I've had the opportunity to travel A LOT for both business and personal trips. That's been the best part. It's not worth it though. I would go back in time and tell myself all of this if I could.
if you don't mind me asking, at what age did you start flying and were you aware of the hardship you face?
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It sounds like you love flying. Have you ever stopped and asked yourself if "love flying"=airline pilot? As if airline pilots are the only people that can love flying?[/QUOTE]
I wish I had the money to fly recreationally or even own my own aircraft but I understand where your coming from, maybe I’ll just have to work hard and hopefully I can afford to do that one day
I wish I had the money to fly recreationally or even own my own aircraft but I understand where your coming from, maybe I’ll just have to work hard and hopefully I can afford to do that one day
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What you see today is not what will be in 5-10 years.
And FWIW, I had the same plan. Now working at Target down the street is looking more attractive every day.
Throughout college we were reinforced with idea of how lucky we were to be graduating at a time when entry-level aircraft were the new "regional jets".
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If you are in the service and thinking about separating, find a community college to use your Post-9/11 GI Bill at. There's your cost problem solved (I'm assuming you have at least 3 years active service, so that's 100% tuition and fees plus BAH and books). So what if you have a BS already, 1-1.5 years of time and GI Bill eligibility to get ratings for free and get paid to do it is a no brainer.
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If you are in the service and thinking about separating, find a community college to use your Post-9/11 GI Bill at. There's your cost problem solved (I'm assuming you have at least 3 years active service, so that's 100% tuition and fees plus BAH and books). So what if you have a BS already, 1-1.5 years of time and GI Bill eligibility to get ratings for free and get paid to do it is a no brainer.
thanks
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I made a career jump awhile back and so far do not regret my choice. I would recommend getting a private before deciding to separate. You never know if you'll even like flying or if you are just attracted to the perception of what pilots stand for to you.
There is an oppressive amount of negativity on this board. Every negative opinion must be taken with a grain of salt as usually the angriest voices are also the loudest. I know plenty of people who are moderately happy at their respective regional and others who have been lucky to make the jump to a major during this time of no-movement. Whatever you do, don't come into it with delusions of grandeur. It will be a long, hard road.
There is an oppressive amount of negativity on this board. Every negative opinion must be taken with a grain of salt as usually the angriest voices are also the loudest. I know plenty of people who are moderately happy at their respective regional and others who have been lucky to make the jump to a major during this time of no-movement. Whatever you do, don't come into it with delusions of grandeur. It will be a long, hard road.
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I made a career jump awhile back and so far do not regret my choice. I would recommend getting a private before deciding to separate. You never know if you'll even like flying or if you are just attracted to the perception of what pilots stand for to you.
There is an oppressive amount of negativity on this board. Every negative opinion must be taken with a grain of salt as usually the angriest voices are also the loudest. I know plenty of people who are moderately happy at their respective regional and others who have been lucky to make the jump to a major during this time of no-movement. Whatever you do, don't come into it with delusions of grandeur. It will be a long, hard road.
There is an oppressive amount of negativity on this board. Every negative opinion must be taken with a grain of salt as usually the angriest voices are also the loudest. I know plenty of people who are moderately happy at their respective regional and others who have been lucky to make the jump to a major during this time of no-movement. Whatever you do, don't come into it with delusions of grandeur. It will be a long, hard road.


