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word302 08-08-2013 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1459306)
Just some quick words though: the ball tells you what has already happened :)

+1. If you spend your time looking at the ball instead of outside. You're not really getting the necessary cues. Turning stalls are the only time I allow students to even glance at the ball.

e6bpilot 08-08-2013 07:10 PM

Used to teach the approach turn stall to Navy students in the Turbo Weenie. The way we taught the recovery is:
Max, relax, level, ball

It is all done simultaneously.

Max power
Relax back stick pressure (don't bury the nose)
Level the wings
Center the ball

The idea is to reduce the aoa as much as possible as quickly as possible.

Rhino12 08-08-2013 07:14 PM

BFR is not an evaluation...it's a tool to keep you proficient/cognizant in things you do not do on a regular basis. Look at it as a learning experience and not a pass/fail. My 121 job we do turning stalls in the 767...same principles as mentioned above. Remember to have fun!!

Rhino12 08-08-2013 07:15 PM

Stalls in the sim of course :-)

JamesNoBrakes 08-08-2013 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 1459363)
Used to teach the approach turn stall to Navy students in the Turbo Weenie. The way we taught the recovery is:
Max, relax, level, ball

It is all done simultaneously.

Max power
Relax back stick pressure (don't bury the nose)
Level the wings
Center the ball

The idea is to reduce the aoa as much as possible as quickly as possible.

Thank god there are other people out there not so concerned about the fact that a wing dropped and trying to "level" the aircraft with rudder. Yep, just get the nose down and who cares if you're in a bank. Get out of stall AOA first. The rudder does not "bring the wing" up. You might use it for certain things at certain times, but in a stall that's just going to yaw you in the opposite direction, good for starting spins. :)

550pilot01 08-12-2013 09:44 AM

Relax, level, max, ball.

Relax backstick, level wings, maximum power, center the ball. Good luck.

N9373M 08-25-2013 05:18 AM

Follow up
 
Had the BFR yesterday. The turning stalls were a non-event - thanks to your replies and the CFI's demeanor - and the 172 is pretty docile.

turns out the CFI flew Helos for awhile, then was XO at two training squadrons: VT-2 and one I can't remember flying the T2 and T6. Very laid back training style: "Hey, I think I smell something electrical burning, what should we do"?

Flight started with a simulated engine failure during departure after turning crosswind. Made a beeline for the runway and landed opposite direction, then out to the practice area for the steep turn, slow/stall (with turns) series and then some unusual attitudes at my request. Shot the localizer into the home field, then 3 more t/gos with varying flap settings.

Great flight.

mspano85 08-25-2013 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 1469714)
Had the BFR yesterday. The turning stalls were a non-event - thanks to your replies and the CFI's demeanor - and the 172 is pretty docile.

turns out the CFI flew Helos for awhile, then was XO at two training squadrons: VT-2 and one I can't remember flying the T2 and T6. Very laid back training style: "Hey, I think I smell something electrical burning, what should we do"?

Flight started with a simulated engine failure during departure after turning crosswind. Made a beeline for the runway and landed opposite direction, then out to the practice area for the steep turn, slow/stall (with turns) series and then some unusual attitudes at my request. Shot the localizer into the home field, then 3 more t/gos with varying flap settings.

Great flight.

Congrats! When you going up in the Mooney? If you offer me a ride, I might accept! :)


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