Rudder Help and Soloing Question
07-03-2014, 08:57 PM
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You're bringing back the memories Timbo! My first primary instructor just wasn't getting through to me. It didn't help that I had some exposure to instrument flying prior to officially beginning my primary training... I was transferred to the Chief Pilot. After seeing what I had, which wasn't much; he did something very unexpected. After he finished yelling and just after turning downwind, he said "Take off your shirt!" I hesitated and the yelling started again, "Take off your shirt!" We covered the entire instrument panel and it was then that I started to learn to fly.
07-04-2014, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by twk3395
Small world haha! Any airports that you recommend?
Don't worry though, it'll come to you. As an instructor, it still amazes me that you can see the moment when it "clicks" for a student, just as clearly as flipping a light switch.
07-04-2014, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyhayes
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Don't worry though, it'll come to you. As an instructor, it still amazes me that you can see the moment when it "clicks" for a student, just as clearly as flipping a light switch.
Don't worry though, it'll come to you. As an instructor, it still amazes me that you can see the moment when it "clicks" for a student, just as clearly as flipping a light switch.
. That was a long time ago. Carry on.
07-04-2014, 10:42 AM
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My last student soloed at 15.4 hours, and he was an exceptionally good student. Students under my tutelage don't solo until they are ready, and when there is absolute confidence on my part (if something happens, it's my metal getting bent). Striving for a quicker solo time shouldn't be part of a student's thinking, it can easily become a distraction that hinders progress. Safety should be the ultimate key and this required a long term approach.
All to often I see young instructors at the pilot factories pressured into soloing low time students, most of the time the students land without incidence, but not always. The NTSB reports are littered with initial solo accidents to proving it an unwise practice.
All to often I see young instructors at the pilot factories pressured into soloing low time students, most of the time the students land without incidence, but not always. The NTSB reports are littered with initial solo accidents to proving it an unwise practice.
07-04-2014, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by twk3395
So I have about 18 hours of flight time and when I went up earlier today with my instructor, a couple of hours before I was supposed to complete a pre-solo check-ride (my flight school requires it). The landings were bad but not completely horrible (the plane was able to be used again), however, they were far from solo quality. His biggest complaint was the lack of rudder usage. However, the flight before he said my rudder usage was excellent. Does anyone have any tips for using rudder on landing? Any exercises or tips to help build rudder usage? And a completely random question but, how many hours is average for soloing?
Sounds silly...but it works.
07-05-2014, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda2
You're bringing back the memories Timbo! My first primary instructor just wasn't getting through to me. It didn't help that I had some exposure to instrument flying prior to officially beginning my primary training... I was transferred to the Chief Pilot. After seeing what I had, which wasn't much; he did something very unexpected. After he finished yelling and just after turning downwind, he said "Take off your shirt!" I hesitated and the yelling started again, "Take off your shirt!" We covered the entire instrument panel and it was then that I started to learn to fly.
Originally Posted by Flyhayes
My last student soloed at 15.4 hours, and he was an exceptionally good student. Students under my tutelage don't solo until they are ready, and when there is absolute confidence on my part (if something happens, it's my metal getting bent). Striving for a quicker solo time shouldn't be part of a student's thinking, it can easily become a distraction that hinders progress. Safety should be the ultimate key and this required a long term approach.
All to often I see young instructors at the pilot factories pressured into soloing low time students, most of the time the students land without incidence, but not always. The NTSB reports are littered with initial solo accidents to proving it an unwise practice.
All to often I see young instructors at the pilot factories pressured into soloing low time students, most of the time the students land without incidence, but not always. The NTSB reports are littered with initial solo accidents to proving it an unwise practice.
Originally Posted by cfii2007
Chair flying.....visualize the landing in your mind working your feet and arms for the proper inputs.
Sounds silly...but it works.
Sounds silly...but it works.
Originally Posted by Flyhayes
It's been years since I flew up there, so my poor memory won't be to much help. I do remember that GAI gets some pretty nice winds in the fall, but I doubt you'll want to wait until October....
Don't worry though, it'll come to you. As an instructor, it still amazes me that you can see the moment when it "clicks" for a student, just as clearly as flipping a light switch.
Don't worry though, it'll come to you. As an instructor, it still amazes me that you can see the moment when it "clicks" for a student, just as clearly as flipping a light switch.
07-05-2014, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda2
Many folks soloed in less than ten hours, "Back in the Day" They were typically woefully unprepared for anything to go wrong and often it wasn't all that pretty. Thankfully those days are gone.
