I just threw it up there so the OP would know how the UPT grads did it. And if he looked up the reg he'd know it didn't apply to him.

Title: Section 61.41 - Flight training received from flight instructors not certificated by the FAA.
Context: Title 14 - Aeronautics and Space. CHAPTER I - FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (CONTINUED). SUBCHAPTER D - AIRMEN. PART 61 - CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND GROUND INSTRUCTORS. Subpart A - General.
§ 61.41Flight training received from flight instructors not certificated by the FAA.
(a) A person may credit flight training toward the requirements of a pilot certificate or rating issued under this part, if that person received the training from:
(1) A flight instructor of an Armed Force in a program for training military pilots of either—
(i) The United States; or
(ii) A foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.
(2) A flight instructor who is authorized to give such training by the licensing authority of a foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation, and the flight training is given outside the United States.
(b) A flight instructor described in paragraph (a) of this section is only authorized to give endorsements to show training given.


This is what allows your time at UPT to help shortcut your private and instrument ratings.

Basically, I would have to get you safe in a GA plane, meet all the part 61 requirements to send you solo, then a short dual cross country to evaluate your navigation skills, then send you solo cross country to meet those solo x/c requirements. After that as soon as you pass my ground eval to prep for the oral and as soon as you can meet private PTS, you'd go take the check ride. I am guessing 5-8 hours of dual plus whatever solo time you needed. The Inst/Nav block should have taken care of all the night, simulated instrument time, and dual cross country time that you need.

Hopefully you have your gradebook and 781s from TIMs, if not get them before you leave KSPS, it's your training record.

Your instrument training has far exceeded the dual received requirements in an actual aircraft and logging all your UTD/IFT/OFT instrument sims as flight training device is icing on top of the cake for approach work and time. What you don't have and need would be the 50 hours PIC cross country time post private to get your instrument rating.

PM when you have enough posts to do so, if you need any more help/advice.

Thanks for pointing that out. I was not aware that specific training flights could be counted as dual without standard faa endorsements.

You did not just use "BLUF" on open channels.... That type of language is reserved for trbs and all other three letter meetings we have, but not here!!!,

It was tongue-in-cheek, and I was wrong anyway.

With all of your instrument time, you should perhaps look into getting the combined Private/Instrument checkride that has been recently introduced; although I admittedly am not familiar with the details or how exactly that would be applied in your unique situation.

Thanks for all of the help!

What I'm getting out of this and with talks with a private instructor is:

1- I need dual time to get qualled both for XC and for the checkride in general.

2- I'll need at least 6 hours dual for both of this

3- I'll need to do solo XC - PIC for the 5 hour reqs.

4- Pilot training (97 hrs!) covers the rest of the stuff- night, hours etc.

5- Regardless of the 20 hr dual req, I have 18 hrs from screening program, and I'll have the 6 above (1).

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I was hoping I could just do a warm-up, checkride, and written test for my PPL, but it looks like it will cost me around $1500 and will still take roughly 11 hours more + exams.

I'm not complaining- hey, I did get washed out!

Regarding instrument rating, I'm planning (hoping) to cross-train into RPAs, and I'll get the instrument rating in the course of that.

Thanks for all the help again!

Nice little dig at CIV pilots :rolleyes:

The majority of my FO's wouldn't have hacked it. A lot of that has to do with motivation, they're content with what they do.

Stay on track for the PP license, and what may lie beyond. You already have a good base to build upon.