Originally Posted by C12mintz (Post 1868330)

I know that students who complete UPT (roughly 230 hours) get a PPL, instrument rating, and a commercial license.

Originally Posted by C12mintz (Post 1868330)

Thanks in advance for any potential help!

I recently washed out of ENJJPT training for flying deficiency in the Formation phase of T-6 training. I had 97 military hours and approx. 18 logged civilian hours from flight screening in Pueblo. I've also had 51 simulator hours, but not sure how/if those count.

While I'm working on reclassification, I'd really like to get my PPL, but I've had a hard time getting good info. I know that students who complete UPT (roughly 230 hours) get a PPL, instrument rating, and a commercial license.

A local flight instructor told me I'd need to spend roughly 6 hours learning the 172, then I could take a written exam and do an FAA Checkride. Another guy told me there might be a way for my 3 (successful) Air Force check rides to count. I took a contact, advanced contact, and instrument check ride in UPT.

I'm in a sort of rare position here, does anyone have any ideas? Who would I reach out to?

Thanks again for all of your help!

Originally Posted by Hc130 (Post 1868330)

Thanks in advance for any potential help! 1st post :)

I washed out of UPT training last year, after the Instrument phase of T-6 training.
I had 90 military hours and approx. 25 pervious civilian hours.
I've also had 50 simulator hours, but not sure if/how those count.

I Obtained My PPL “Post UPT”
I only had to fly like 10 hrs to get whatever reqs. I didn’t already have.
Right Now I’m interested in civilian career, and I’m trying to get my instrument rating, (Passed the IFR written exam already)


I'm in a sort of rare position here, does anyone have any ideas? What should :confused: I do Who would I reach out to?

*I know that students who complete UPT (roughly 230 hours) get a PPL, instrument rating, and a commercial license.



Thanks again for all of your help!

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2008825)

Does the single engine T-6 time somehow qualify graduates for a PPL now? Do the T-1 track pilots get a ME commercial without the centerline thrust restriction?

Originally Posted by Ditka (Post 2008880)

Part 1-yes-sort of.
Part 2-T-1 is not centerline thrust.
Upon completion of T-1 training (winging). You have requisites to get a BE400 type, Instrument, Commercial, ME via a competency exam. I'd have to look at my license, but I think you also get a SE commercial. Don't remember.

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2008825)

There was no "instrument rating" since that is already part of the commercial license.

Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2010307)

The instrument rating is not part of a commercial license. It can be obtained enroute to the commercial, but need not be.

I flew the first five years of my commercial career without an instrument rating.

Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2010307)

The instrument rating is not part of a commercial license.