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Old 08-09-2016, 07:41 PM
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Its not so much like that. Its more like being wrapped around the axel on minor things and losing sight of big picture. Just wondering as I have not been to an academy run like this.

I guess its hard for me to explain it. There were little queep things and people in the military. If you know what I am talking about that is what I am trying to reference.

There is safe, then there is over the top.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:53 PM
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I am about to start there. I am coming in with a ton of military UAV time (MQ-9 2000+) and a PPL. I am concered that this academy will be wrapped around the axel with academy flying guidelines more so than the FAA practical tests.

Someone with experience there could you let me know. How strict are they with domestic students? Do I train to the practical as in Part 61 just with more structured class and flights? Or simply put, is it like flying for an airline where I have a bunch of extra policies to comply with that make flying much more difficult than it really is.
With any company, agency, department, or operation, you will always be responsible for complying not only with civil air regulation ("FAR's"), but also with your employer's policies, guidelines, operations specifications, policies, and procedures, as well as those established for the airspace in which you're flying, the country in which you're flying, local practices, policies and procedures, etc. It doesn't matter if you're flying for an airline or for the military, operating for a corporate department or a sheriff's office, flying fire, performing instruction, spraying crops, towing banners, etc. You're always going to have to meet multiple sources of guidance, and you'll be expected to adhere to it and follow it.

Transpac is a student mill for foreign airline students, primarily Chinese. Students from Transpac routinely, regularly fail their practical tests.
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Old 08-10-2016, 06:44 AM
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That is good info there. I was unaware that their students filed their practical. I also think this may have something to do with them being foreign students. With my previous experince and knowledge of reading a PTS I doubt I would fail, barring a mistake a slip up. I also doubt its due to incorrect instruction.

Its tough because I am experinced while I am not experienced. Being a low time manned pilot but knowing and working with high time guys, their opinions have rubbed off on me. I know a lot of USAF pilots that hate airline operations because of thier rules, so I feel I have a negative prejudice because of thier experince without having an experience of my own yet.

I think the best course of action would be to tackle it head on and be open to these things I know other people dislike because my experince my differ from theirs.
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Youngoldguy View Post
That is good info there. I was unaware that their students filed their practical. I also think this may have something to do with them being foreign students. With my previous experince and knowledge of reading a PTS I doubt I would fail, barring a mistake a slip up. I also doubt its due to incorrect instruction.

Its tough because I am experinced while I am not experienced. Being a low time manned pilot but knowing and working with high time guys, their opinions have rubbed off on me. I know a lot of USAF pilots that hate airline operations because of thier rules, so I feel I have a negative prejudice because of thier experince without having an experience of my own yet.

I think the best course of action would be to tackle it head on and be open to these things I know other people dislike because my experince my differ from theirs.
You may or may not have taken note of the reaction of other posters to your comments, and you may not be aware of how your comments are being perceived.

You have time in an isolated environment (military) operating remote vehicles; that does not equate to pilot in command experience in the civil or real world. The comprehensive environment of aeronautical decision making is something at which you don't have experience: you're a private pilot with a few hours of pilot time. To enter suggesting that you're highly experienced, or that you have an understanding based on being around pilots, comes across as a certain degree of chutzpah, and will quickly get you dismissed, as it already has here.

"I'm experienced while I'm not experienced" won't really cut it.

The attitude that one doesn't like the airlines because of their regulations smacks of naive, young uninformed opinion. If this is what those around you are saying, you might be best served stopping listening.

If you intend to become a professional aviator, you're going to need to get to know regulation. You'll need to be intimately familiar with FAA regulation. You'll need to know the aircraft limitations, procedures, systems, and any related data thoroughly, and you'll need to abide them. You will absolutely need to know how your employer wants the aircraft operated, and any restrictions, limitations, procedures, or policies the employer may have regarding operating the aircraft, conduct of the flight dress, bearing, behavior, actions, and the job in general.

I'm doing an assignment right now which requires me to comply with the FAA regulation, with my employer regulation, and with the regulation and policy of multiple agencies. I'm absolutely expected to be in full compliance with all of them at all times. I'm expected to know them and to abide them. This is the case for all working aviators, including military aviators. You should be very well aware of this.

There are certainly aspects of your training and your operational experience which will benefit you as a pilot. Incorporate those lessons learned. Keep them. Don't make the mistake, however, of considering yourself experienced as an aviator. There's a big difference between looking at pictures of weather and instruments on a screen or display, and flying in the weather. The same is true of every other aspect of flying, and operating as a pilot. Even as a student learning instruments, there's a big difference between wearing a view-limiting device in training, and flying in actual instrument conditions in flight; not the same thing.

I can't speak to the failure record for domestic students at Transpac and other training facilities, but the Chinese have an exceptionally high failure rate, with multiple practical tests for the same certificate or rating often evidenced in their logbooks...retests after retests. Any school or facility that's willing to not only accept that, but to operate that way in the long term, should be given careful consideration before committing one's personal funds.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:09 PM
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Thanks for thr info. My comment about experince is not claiming I have aeronautical experience, but that I have a strong network of friends highly experienced, and their attitudes have rubbed off on me.
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Old 08-10-2016, 05:52 PM
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I too have a strong group of highly experienced friends. So apparently that would give me a big head start should I decide I wanted to run a Fortune 500 company, perform brain surgery or pilot the space shuttle. Wow, Thank you, I had no idea I was performing so far below my potential. Confidence is one thing, Ego is another. In this business I suggest you check you Ego at the door. Additionally, In real life you can fail a Checkride if the examiner woke up on the wrong side of the bed or they just don't like the look on your face. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... Good luck.
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