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Old 02-24-2007, 09:17 AM
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NY ANG has C-130's and Blackhawks at Gabreski Field, Westhampton, NY

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Old 02-24-2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TravisUK View Post
I will add my thoughts in because in 3 weeks I will find out if I got a pilot slot in the USAF. There are a couple things that aren't exactly right....



You can fly rotary, its an option after UPT. Most people don't want it. If you do go rotary you will either be flying special operations or missle support out at the ranges.

And I don't think there are any guard or reserve units flying helos.



* Normal color vision
* Distant vision – pilots, uncorrected to 20/50
* Near vision – pilots, uncorrected to 20/20
* Meet refraction, accommodation and astigmatism requirements
* Corrective eye surgery could be a disqualifier
* Have no history of hay fever, asthma or allergies after age 12
* Meet Air Force weight and physical conditioning requirements
* Have standing height of 64 to 77 inches and sitting height of 34 to 40 inches

PRK is really touchy right now. If you want it, let the AF do it.
Good point on the Air Force distance vision. I was discussing USN/USMC also, and they are still 20/20 unless that has changed very recently.
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Originally Posted by veez737 View Post
"Also, there is no way to go to USAF pilot training and end up with a helicopter assignment. You should know long before you sign on the dotted line if you're going for fixed or rotary wing."

Just curious...did they do away with the "Joint Specialized UPT". When I went through ('94), some of the active duty guys went to Helo training. They didn't know they were going until the drop.

Also, they may have changed the rules about eye surgery, but I'd research this very carefully before I had anything done.
I wouldn't bet next paycheck on this but I'm reasonably sure that you can't get non-volunteered to a helo on assignment night.

Also, the eye surgery thing HAS changed and certain types are allowed. That much I'm certain.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TravisUK View Post
IAnd I don't think there are any guard or reserve units flying helos.
Absolutely 100% NOT TRUE. One example would be the Reserve helo rescue unit at D.M. in Tucson.
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Non-guard/standard Air Force pilot going through UPT recieves their assignment as they finish "primary" based off of primary completion score, desired selection, and BILLETS AVAILABLE. Simple put you will get whatever the USAF gives you regardless of your choice. Trust me, I see selections every week for all four services out of Whiting.

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Helo-slots are so rare these days that you pretty much have to want one to get one. There are always 1 or 2 in the class that'd rather fly helo's than heavies.

Answering the original poster's question, yes, it is possible to go into the Air Force and have them teach you how to fly. If you get accepted to flight school, you will spend about a year and a half in flight training while they teach you how to fly military aircraft. You can take FAA written tests while in the military to get your civilian Instrument, Multi-Engine Commercial ticket so that when you leave the military, you can go on to get your ATP and fly for a commercial operation.
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Old 02-25-2007, 05:59 PM
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if you have allergies that is an automatic disqualifier?
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Old 02-25-2007, 06:34 PM
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Is it possible just to go to the Air Force and let them teach you how to fly. Can anyone tell me what they teach and what do you have learn by yourself after you leave? How does it work? Thank you.
Yes. The airforce, if you get a pilot slot, will teach you how to fly. You can have zero hours. So long as you can pass the physical and a few other tests you can get a pilot slot. Also you have to have a 4yr degree it doesn't matter in what.

They'll start you just like a preprivate. You'll go up in small single engine planes and learn pattern work then progress into soloing. Then you'll move up to a little bigger and little faster aircraft where you learn all the systems and learn to formation fly ect. After your 11 years are up you'll be pretty darn good at flying.
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Old 02-25-2007, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TravisUK View Post
And I don't think there are any guard or reserve units flying helos.
There are tons. I've seen chanooks out here in Del Rio doing border work all the time. From Houston? There are always reserve and guard guys flying helo's in and out of here.
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I am pretty sure there are Guard helos in Alaska too...

You can have allergies too, it all depends. I would recommend to anyone to try. Things are waiverable, and some are not. But try or you will never know. Don't ever just take the mutterings of those on a chat forum or "friends" who think they know, because most of the time they are full of sh!t.
Go for it and let them tell you no, because they may not!

Good luck


One more thing: there are alot of people who say they would have tried but they have this or that. Don't be that guy. Its not as bad as you think. You have to not be a pu$$y and try.
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