WILBUR ORVIS

I just applied for the FLL position too. I'm planning to take the multitasking segment tomorrow when I am better rested and I need to download an Adobe Flash first.

WHACKMASTER

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NEDude

Looks like someone needs a refresher:

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NEDude

Joachim and Danfly180:

Are you guys EASA rated, or will you be operating on the EASA validation of the FAA ATP? If it is the validation, are you validated through the Norwegian authorities or through the UK CAA? Have they told you whether you will be operating on the NAS certificate or on the NUK certificate?

Just curious how they are setting it up. Good luck with everything!

Joachim

Thanks NED.

I have expired JAA licenses and will be operating under a waiver for up to 2 years. The company pays for a CAA medical but that could be used in any EASA country as far as I remember. So far everything points towards UK licenses. OSM has not specified which AOC we will be working under and I haven't asked. My class date is 4 months out so I haven't received the details as of yet.

DANFLY, check your PM's

sailingfun

I hope it works out for you. There have been many attempts at low cost transatlantic flights. None really have worked out. By its nature transatlantic flying costs are pretty fixed with one exception. The exception is labor. Their business model relies on subpar labor costs. It's not going to improve over time. The other consideration is you probably have made yourself not hireable by a quality US airline should Norwegian not succeed or decide to cut costs further after they are established by bringing in even cheaper labor from other sources. It's a big gamble that at best turns into a career of working for subpar salaries.

GogglesPisano

Sounds like working for Norwegian is like working for Ryanair. You're a temp. Why anyone would consider it is beyond me.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/b...ir-pilots.html

NEDude

Interesting article in many ways. But from within Europe, Norwegian and Ryanair are viewed VERY differently. Ryanair is bleeding pilots (or at least was until the shutdown of Air Berlin and Monarch), with many going to places like Norwegian. It should also be noted that unlike Ryanair, a large number of pilots at Norwegian are unionised through BALPA, SEPLA, NPU and others (see: https://norwegianpilotgroup.org ).

Also the article mentions health care coverage, seemingly ignorant of the fact that Europeans have universal healthcare coverage. And yes, that coverage is valid throughout the EU, not just in your home country. EU citizens and long-term legal residents are issued an EU "Blue Card" which covers health care when in EU countries outside of your home country.

I also know that at least French and UK based pilots for Norwegian are enrolled in pension plans. My neighbour says he'd love to be able to go to the Paris base simply for the pension plan, but commuting is difficult. He is covered under a fairly generous UK plan though.

Lastly, contract positions are quite common in Europe and Ryanair and Norwegian are hardly unique in offering contract positions. Even European legacy airlines have done so quite regularly.

Denti

Legacy carriers? Doubt that except for very short term needs. Wet leases do happen sometimes, but that is hardly the same as employing contractors. Or we might have a different definition of legacy carrier, in my view that is Air France/KLM mainline, Lufthansa mainline, British Airways and so on.

Ryanair has a normal turnover of 20% of its pilots per year. The recent problems stem mainly from a much increased turnover rate, especially trainers and long term captains. For comparison, easyjet, which doesn't employ contractors (anymore), has a turnover rate of around 2% per year and has no problem keeping its trainers. And of course has tons of application from ryanair pilots...

Sniper66

Looking for a job back in the states ?
Your previous employer in Phoenix is hiring I was told