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JTwift 02-24-2017 02:11 AM

Anyone get a Norwegian interview?
 
I filled out the app two days ago and got an invite this morning for interview in Miami in early March.

I didn't quite expect this quick of a turnaround, to be honest. I also can't find a single thing about their pilot pay scales (I guess just extrapolate the Euro pay into USD?)

Usafbmw 02-24-2017 03:00 AM

Norwegian pilot pay, from the source
 
Here is the pay and their information, sparse as it is.


737 first then 787.

CAREFUL FOR THE BONDING requirement ON THE 787.

This is hardly competitive for US carriers...





The B737 Max8


The Job

Successful applicants will be employed by OSM Aviation Inc., based at Providence Theodore Francis Green International Airport (PVD), RI or Newburgh Stewart International Airport (SWF), NY, flying Norwegian B737 MAX on our new medium long haul operation.

The Airline

Norwegian is a high quality airline with 118 aircrafts in its fleet. In addition, they have a firm order on 260 new aircrafts. They operate Boeing 737NG and B787.
Norwegian has repetitiously won Best Low Cost Airline for both Short Haul- and Long Haul carrier.
Norwegian is Launch customer for the MAX in Europe, and the first to set the aircraft into production.

The Employer
OSM Aviation was established only 3 years ago and has already positioned itself as one of the worlds leading crew management companies.
Our misson is to be a responsible employer ensuring best practice…..It’s all about people!
OSM Aviation vow always to be a socially responsible employer, abiding by the law and taxation regulations in all countries and territories where we employ people. Our employees shall feel secure in their employment and feel pride in the work they do.

Our Bases

We currently operate the below bases. Availability depends on the popularity of each base. Norwegian has a base bidding system where all short haul pilots can get their bids fullfilled in order of seniority
USA:
Providence Theodore Francis Green International Airport (PVD), RI Newburgh Stewart International Airport (SWF), NY
Europe:
London, Gatwick LGW Edinburgh EDI




Helsinki HEL Riga RIX Rome FCO Barcelona BCN Madrid MAD
Palma de Mallorca PMI Alicante ALQ
Malaga AGP Las Palmas LPA Tenerife TFS

Scandinavian bases only accept bids for First Officer positions in order of seniority and when positions become available. These are OSL, TRD, BGO, ARN and CPH.


The Exiting World of Norwegian




What we require



Note: You must have the legal right to live and work in the United States

Captains B737 - non Type-Rated Qualifications

FAA/EASA License (If FAA: Validation and conversion during the first 2 years) EASA Medical Class 1
4000 h Total Time
2000 h PIC on Commercial Jets => 30T MTOW
English,languageproficiency“ICAO”level 5 or higher, or proficientas per FAA No criminal record or accidents

Captains B737 - Type-Rated Qualifications

FAA/EASA License (If FAA: Validation and conversion during the first 2 years) EASA Medical Class 1
4000 h total time
2000 h PIC on Commercial Jets => 30T MTOW
500 h PIC on B737-300/800 and 150 hours within the last 12 months. A minimum of 500 h total flight time as commander on type
English, language proficiency“ICAO”level 5 or higher, or proficientas per FAA No criminal record or accidents




First Officers B737 - Type Rated Qualifications

FAA/EASA License (ATP) (If FAA: Validation and conversion during the first 2 years)
EASA Medical Class 1 1,500 h total time
500 h on B737-300/800 and 150 hours within the last 12 months
English,languageproficiency“ICAO”level 4 or higher, or proficientas per FAA No criminal record or accidents

First Officers B737 - non Type-Rated Qualifications

FAA/EASA License (ATP) (If FAA: Validation and conversion during the first 2 years)
EASA Medical Class 1 1,500 h total time
500 h relevant experience in commercial operations within the last 12 months English,languageproficiency“ICAO”level 5 or higher, or proficientas per FAA No criminal record or accidents

Fast Track Command

If you have a high level of experience on large turbo prop aircraft, the time in the right seat required is around 700 hours (approx 12 months) before command upgrade can start. The combination of total time and jet time is thus 6000 with minimum 700 being on Norwegian (plus upgrade training). It will, naturally, require passing the CDR evaluation.
(Ex1: you have a total of more than 5300 hours on a Dash8, you only need 700 hours in the right seat before you can upgrade as a B737 CDR. Ex2: You have 3500 hours total of which 2200 hours are on jets over 30T MTOW, you will only need 300 hours in the right seat to be eligible for command upgrade). The above examples are always dependent on the need of captains and you passing the upgrade requirements.

What we offer


Your Duty Periods starts and finishes at assign base – PVD or SWF

Your Gross Salary* Captain: $8.500/monthFirst Officer: $4.700/month

Your Per Diem/Allowance

$1.000 (all ranks)

Your Bought Day Off

Captain: 10% of your monthly salary $850 per day First Officer: 10% of your monthly salary $470 per day






Your Phone Allowance

Captain: $ 100 per month
First Officer: $ 50 per month

Your Special job pay

Base Chief Captain: $ TBD per month Line Training Captains: $ 20 per hour
Simulator Instructors: $ 40 per hour (CA, FO) Check Captains: $ 40 per hour

*Monthly payment from day one at training.

Your Time Off

You will get a minimum of 10 days off in a month. You will have 28 days of paid annual leave.


Your Sick leave

30 paid sick leave days per year then as per insurance

Your Layover Station Transportation & Accommodation

Provided by Norwegian.

Your Travel Benefits

ID travel benefits are provided to you and your qualifying family members on Norwegian services according to current policies
Service Tickets (S2) are provided to pilots for travel to and from work

Health plan

Major Medical + GAP Employer pays 50% Dental & Vision Voluntary
Life and Short Term Disability 100% covered

Your Insurance

Both Medical and Personal Accident and Illness insurance is provided by OSM Aviation




Loss of License insurance sum varies with age, starting from EUR 200,000 up to 44 years of age and declining to EUR 50,000 from the age of 59.

Your Training

Training will typically be with a Type-Rating vendor. OCC and Type-Rating will be with Norwegian at one of the training bases in the US or Europe.

Your Training Cost Bond

Unless you are B737 rated, before commencing training you must sign a Non- Compete clause valid for the first three years. No cost for the pilot.




Your Contract

Your contract will be a 3-year renewable OSM Aviation contract, within 2 years you must however, successfully pass the test for the EASA ATPL if not yet in possession of such.
You must be able to pass the EASA Class 1 medical, and you must take an ICAO English test (EPL) if you have never passed this previously, even if you have automatically been awarded an EPL level by your current authority.

TheWayto Apply and then what?


Apply via:
https://osmaviation.com/personnel/jobs/

OSM Aviation in cooperation with Norwegian will set up Interview processes where we will accommodate you either in MIA or other venues.

If you need to travel for the screening process, Norwegian can arrange tickets on the Norwegian network to attend.
We can book hotel at our rates if needed, but the you must settle the bill with the hotel upon arrival.







Your Interview


Wewill make several dates available for you in either MIA or other venues The process takes one day.

The content of the interview is (all times are approximate)

- A short presentation of OSM Aviation and Norwegian
- A Group Exercise (0:30)
- A Structured Interview (0:30)
- A Technical interview (0:30)
- An EPST Advanced Compass Test (1:30)
- A Documentation Check (a list of required documents will be sent with the invitation)
- A simulator check
The result will be forwarded as soon as possible, usually within a week or two.

By this offer we hope we can give you a bit the fascinating world offered to you by OSM Aviation with our presence in 14 countries and with Norwegian and their worldwide network.

On Behalf of OSM Aviation and our operator Norwegian

The OSM Aviation Pilot Recruitment Team


OSM AVIATION GROUP
www.osmaviation.com

--------------------------------





B787NorwegianDreamlinerFlightCrew,FortLauderdale,Florida


‘Be part of the airline where low price meets high quality’‘Be employed by a company where ‘It’s all about people’


The Job


Successful applicants will be employed by OSM Aviation, based at Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport (FLL), FL, flying Norwegian B787 Dreamliners on our exiting long haul network

The Airline


Norwegian is a high quality
Norwegian has repetitiously won Best Low Cost Airline for both Short Haul- and Long Haul carrier

What we require

Note: You must have the legal right to live and work in the United States Captain
FAA or EASA ATPL License
FAA or EASA Medical Class 1 (EASA Class 1 Medical required before commencing flight duty) 6,000 hours total flight time
2,500 hours PIC hours on any EFIS jet aircraft
1,000 hours on a wide body or narrow body aircraft in long haul operation

Relief Captain
FAA or EASA ATPL License
FAA or EASA Medical Class 1 (EASA Class 1 Medical required before commencing flight duty) 5,000 hours total flight time
2,500 hours on any EFIS jet aircraft
1,500 hours PIC hours on any EFIS jet aircraft or 1,500 hours as FO on a wide body aircraft

First Officer
FAA or EASA ATPL License
FAA or EASA Medical Class 1 (EASA Class 1 Medical required before commencing flight duty) 1,500 hours total time
1,000 hours on any EFIS jet aircraft




What we offer







Your Duty Periods starts and finishes at FLL

YourGross Salary
Captain: $10,000 per month Relief Captain: $ 7,500 per month First Officer: $ 5,500 per month

YourPerDiem/Allowance
$ 1,000 per month (all ranks)

YourBoughtDay Off
Captain: $1,000 per day Relief Captain: $ 750 per day First Officer: $ 550 per day

YourPhoneAllowance
Captain: $100 per month Relief Captain: $ 50 per month First Officer: $ 50 per month

YourSpecialjobpay
Base Chief Captain: $1,000 per month Line Training Captains: $20 per hour
Simulator Instructors: $40 per hour (CA, RCA, FO) Check Captains: $40 per hour



YourTimeOff
You will get a minimum of 10 days off in a month You will have 28 days of paid annual leave

YourSickleave
30 paid sick leave days per year

YourLayoverStationTransportation& AccommodationProvided by Norwegian.

YourTravelBenefits
ID travel benefits are provided to you and your qualifying family members on Norwegian services according to current policies
Service Tickets are provided to pilots for duty travel in conjunction with work

YourInsurance
Both Medical and Personal Accident and Illness insurance is provided by OSM Aviation Loss of License insurance covers two years basic pay





Your Training


For near-type-rated (B737E/NG, B744, B748, B757/767) your type-rating course will be 17 days.

Forthosewitha type-rating on B777, when qualified, the license will be endorsed withB777/B787as they are considered same type
TrainingwillbeperformedattrainingcentresineitherLondonGatwickorMiamiToqualifyfora short-courses you must be fully current

The Training Cost Bond

Unless you are B787 or B777 rated, before commencing training you must sign a training cost bond which will be reduced by 1/3 annually
- For pilots current on B737E/NG,B744,B748,orB757/767,theisUSD30,000
- Forall other ratings the bond is USD 40,000

Your Contract


Your contract will be a 3-year renewable OSM Aviation contract, within 2 years you must however, successfully pass the test for the EASA ATPL if not yet in possession of such.
You must be able to pass the EASA Class 1 medical, and you must take an ICAO English test (EPL) if you have never passed this previously, even if you have automatically been awarded an EPL level by your current authority.

JTwift 02-24-2017 04:09 AM

I was on mobile and didn't see the attachment. Yup, this is direct cut/paste from what they sent me.

Seems....underwhelming, especially with a 3 year contract.

Smooth at FL450 02-24-2017 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 2307852)
I filled out the app two days ago and got an invite this morning for interview in Miami in early March.

I didn't quite expect this quick of a turnaround, to be honest. I also can't find a single thing about their pilot pay scales (I guess just extrapolate the Euro pay into USD?)


Interview invite 2 days after applying? Guess that says a lot about the place and the lack of applicants.

JTwift 02-24-2017 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 2307917)
Interview invite 2 days after applying? Guess that says a lot about the place and the lack of applicants.

Yeah, I wasn't expecting that.

mainlineAF 02-24-2017 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 2307930)
Yeah, I wasn't expecting that.



What appeals to you about working at NAI?

JTwift 02-24-2017 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2307949)
What appeals to you about working at NAI?

Well, I admittedly put my apps in late in the game. I'm retiring from the AF soon. So, I applied, but I also couldn't find anything about their US pay, etc.

So.....Yeah. I'm in a unique (for me) position where I get one free move to anywhere in the US. I can finally pick where I want to go. Now it's just a matter of finding a job.

mainlineAF 02-24-2017 07:16 AM

[QUOTE=JTwift;2307970]Well, I admittedly put my apps in late in the game. I'm retiring from the AF soon. So, I applied, but I also couldn't find anything about their US pay, etc.



So.....Yeah. I'm in a unique (for me) position where I get one free move to anywhere in the US. I can finally pick where I want to go. Now it's just a matter of finding a job.[/



Please do more research on NAI. As a retiring Mil guy you can get a job at a major fairly easily. May take a short stint at a regional. DO NOT accept a 3 year bond for a crappy job that will tarnish you for a long time.

GogglesPisano 02-24-2017 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 2307970)
Well, I admittedly put my apps in late in the game. I'm retiring from the AF soon. So, I applied, but I also couldn't find anything about their US pay, etc.

So.....Yeah. I'm in a unique (for me) position where I get one free move to anywhere in the US. I can finally pick where I want to go. Now it's just a matter of finding a job.

Good God, man. Do some research right here on APC about this outfit first.

WHACKMASTER 02-24-2017 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 2307970)
Well, I admittedly put my apps in late in the game. I'm retiring from the AF soon. So, I applied, but I also couldn't find anything about their US pay, etc.

So.....Yeah. I'm in a unique (for me) position where I get one free move to anywhere in the US. I can finally pick where I want to go. Now it's just a matter of finding a job.

Might want to factor in the aspect of being considered on par with a scab by many if you take this job. That could hamper your future plans to move onto some place else when you inevitably get tired of being grossly overworked and severely underpaid.

Personally, I'd get educated a little on how much hate there is for this carrier and anyone flying for them. I'd avoid it like a hooker from sub-Sahara Africa.

JTwift 02-24-2017 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2307996)
Might want to factor in the aspect of being considered on par with a scab by many if you take this job. That could hamper your future plans to move onto some place else when you inevitably get tired of being grossly overworked and severely underpaid.

Personally, I'd get educated a little on how much hate there is for this carrier and anyone flying for them. I'd avoid it like a hooker from sub-Sahara Africa.

Yeah, I'm picking up on that.

WHACKMASTER 02-24-2017 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 2308017)
Yeah, I'm picking up on that.

Phew......we were wondering what exactly you were thinking ;)

gettinbumped 02-24-2017 08:33 AM

I'm actually glad you posted this here. Perhaps you can pass along what you learn to other folks coming out of the military who haven't been following the commercial airline world. Life as an NAI pilot is going to be bleak. Not only will the job blow, but (like it or not) you will be branded in the industry. Short term "gain" for a lot of long term pain. Plenty of other jobs out there to hunt for. Best of luck, but think LONG and hard before you sign up for NAI

Packrat 02-24-2017 09:33 AM

Once again, NAI pilots are NOT SCABS. Not even close. The term has a specific meaning and should not be diluted.

WHACKMASTER 02-24-2017 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2308065)
Once again, NAI pilots are NOT SCABS. Not even close. The term has a specific meaning and should not be diluted.

What part of "considered on par with" did you not understand? Many (including myself) would look at them with the same disdain as scabs.

intrepidcv11 02-24-2017 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2307973)



Please do more research on NAI. As a retiring Mil guy you can get a job at a major fairly easily. May take a short stint at a regional. DO NOT accept a 3 year bond for a crappy job that will tarnish you for a long time.

Even you ignore the scab and tarnish talk reread this post. Anyone remotely competive in US Market should not be shackling themselves to a 3 year training bond and the other bs.

zondaracer 02-25-2017 05:57 AM

You can make more at a regional now and have no training bond. Every regional will hire you tomorrow except for the one regional not hiring.

The Dominican 02-25-2017 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 2308038)
Life as an NAI pilot is going to be bleak. Not only will the job blow, but (like it or not) you will be branded in the industry.

The same thing has been said over and over throughout the years..., the UAL and CAL actual scabs..., not considered scabs but actual people who crossed picket lines are today full members of ALPA and they ride your jumpseats regularly..., the same thing was said about the FedEx pilots back in the day...., Gojets and many others!

The simple truth is there is always a lot of tough talk but then the laser pointer is directed towards the new "enemy" and the tough talk is forgotten:rolleyes:

flyboycpa 02-25-2017 04:16 PM

So, from the job posting shown above, how can anyone hold their head up and say they are willing to work for a company that pays Captains 102,000 and First Officers 56,400 AND flies a 737 across the Atlantic for those rates?!?!?!?!

JTwift 02-25-2017 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by flyboycpa (Post 2308891)
So, from the job posting shown above, how can anyone hold their head up and say they are willing to work for a company that pays Captains 102,000 and First Officers 56,400 AND flies a 737 across the Atlantic for those rates?!?!?!?!

Don't forget the three year training bond.

Bozo the pilot 02-25-2017 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 2308898)
Don't forget the three year training bond.

Its a job for guys who have multiple checkride failures and Dwis- now where do I apply?:D

LIOG41 02-25-2017 10:49 PM

scabs. this airline needs to be shut down...quick...it is no good to anyone in this country.

Kapitanleutnant 02-26-2017 05:41 AM

Maybe I missed it but....

Why are you not interested in a US Carrier... any particular reason? Overseas flying IS fun but I do think you'll be branded, rightfully or wrongfully and that's probably not something you'd enjoy having to live with if you someday decide to come work for a US airline.

Good luck in whatever you choose but like life itself, making decisions on certain employers can indeed affect things... fairly or not... in life.

I/m at an overseas carrier and there have been a few European guys go to Norwegian on the 787. From what I've heard back is the pay is pretty low. But these guys have to pay very hefty taxes. I'm not sure how they'll be if you're based in the US. Proly something worth finding out in your quest for info!

Kap

Mythbuster 02-26-2017 04:54 PM

Remember also that you'll have to be working towards an EASA ATP which is a tedious and time consuming process.
If you go to NAI, you're probably setting yourself up to be an overseas contract pilot for your career. There are pluses and minuses to that lifestyle. Just know what you're getting into.

EXPAT1 02-26-2017 08:21 PM

For those considering this look elsewhere IMHO. The pay for a 737 or 787 Captain is only about 10K per month on top of this you would be an employee of an agency who is contracted with an Irish company but yet living and working in a US base which means fully taxable. In other words this is definitely NOT an Ex-Pat gig. China, India or even the Middle East pay much more and would probably work you less than this slave operation. The difficulty of obtaining an EASA ATPL and jumping through all the hoops and 14 different ATP tests over a 2 year period will leave you constantly studying with little time away from the job.

Proximity 02-26-2017 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by EXPAT1 (Post 2309621)
The pay for a 737 or 787 Captain is only about 10K per month on top of this you would be an employee of an agency who is contracted with an Irish company but yet living and working in a US base which means fully taxable.

Since it is an Irish company they likely will not be paying the employer half of the FICA tax, so you'll likely have to pay another 7.65% over what a true USA based job would pay.

MasterOfPuppets 02-27-2017 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2309028)
Its a job for guys who have multiple checkride failures and Dwis- now where do I apply?:D

Can't wait for these idiots to be out on the tracks.......look out below and above.

LoFly 02-27-2017 11:19 AM

I had the interview scheduled for Feb 4th in Oslo, I turned it down after talking to one of the Norwegian 737 instructors and pilot union rapresentative. He said:
- NAI is operated by a third part company that is still struggling getting their $*** togheter;
- NAI doesn't have a pilot Union;
- The 787 pilots of Norwegian in EU all complain about very intense schedules. And coming from EU pilots... it must be hell! In EU pilots actually work :) ;
- you probably know there's a $40.000 training bond, decreasing every year in the first 3 years, so if you hate it there and you want to move on... be ready to pay $$$$!

I'd like to hear also the other side of the coin though. Anybody did actually go to Oslo to interview? Impressions?

Stratapilot 02-27-2017 06:30 PM

The pay maybe awful, the scheduled may blow however THIS is something that needs to grab everyone's attention. Unreal.

Your Training Cost Bond

Unless you are B737 rated, before commencing training you must sign a Non- Compete clause valid for the first three years. No cost for the pilot.

snackysmores 02-27-2017 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2308065)
Once again, NAI pilots are NOT SCABS. Not even close. The term has a specific meaning and should not be diluted.

They are worse than scabs.

lowflying 02-27-2017 07:43 PM

Just brainstorming but I think NAI guys/girls would make ideal candidates at the majors. With such crappy terms United, Delta et al. could hire NAI pilots en masses and cripple NAI's operation. At the least NAI would be forced to up their compensation to keep pilots from jumping ship.

Csy Mon 02-27-2017 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2310400)
They are worse than scabs.

No..

Scabs are the worst, they cross picket lines and they take YOUR job while you are on strike.

NAI pilots are not scabs.
They may be confused, or they may have DUIs whatever, but they probably did not cross your picket line: Big Difference.

Csy Mon 02-27-2017 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2310439)
Just brainstorming but I think NAI guys/girls would make ideal candidates at the majors. With such crappy terms United, Delta et al. could hire NAI pilots en masses and cripple NAI's operation. At the least NAI would be forced to up their compensation to keep pilots from jumping ship.

THIS.../\./\./\...

Packrat 02-27-2017 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2310400)
They are worse.

I guessed I missed the picket line they crossed. For the umpteenth time: The term scab has one meaning and one meaning only. You may not like choices they've made, but they're not scabs.

trip 02-28-2017 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2310439)
Just brainstorming but I think NAI guys/girls would make ideal candidates at the majors. With such crappy terms United, Delta et al. could hire NAI pilots en masses and cripple NAI's operation. At the least NAI would be forced to up their compensation to keep pilots from jumping ship.

Sure great plan, whiling sticking it to the faithful RJ driver who stood firm and didn't run to NAI. YOU guys are ridiculous.

lowflying 02-28-2017 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2310596)
Sure great plan, whiling sticking it to the faithful RJ driver who stood firm and didn't run to NAI. YOU guys are ridiculous.


I'm with you on the faithful rj driver part but, NAI isn't going to be a big operation. The impact, spread out over the two three hundred pilots hired every month, to our chances of getting hired would be minimal.

adebord 02-28-2017 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2310439)
Just brainstorming but I think NAI guys/girls would make ideal candidates at the majors. With such crappy terms United, Delta et al. could hire NAI pilots en masses and cripple NAI's operation. At the least NAI would be forced to up their compensation to keep pilots from jumping ship.

Every time they leave, they have to cut their slave master NAI a check.

NMuir 02-28-2017 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by LIOG41 (Post 2309063)
scabs. this airline needs to be shut down...quick...it is no good to anyone in this country.

It's a lot of good to passengers who can't otherwise afford to travel overseas.

Packrat 02-28-2017 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2311208)
It's a lot of good to passengers who can't otherwise afford to travel overseas.

Again, Rome to U.S.

Delta - $2000
NAI - $400

For all the squawking here, I'd bet most airline pilots paying their own money will be flying NAI.

typeunkwn 02-28-2017 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2311211)
Again, Rome to U.S.

Delta - $2000
NAI - $400

For all the squawking here, I'd bet most airline pilots paying their own money will be flying NAI.

You need to be medicated. And if you already are...up your dosage.


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