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atpcliff 01-07-2019 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2738386)
Great. We've now moved to making this an academic discussion on types of government which have no basis in the real world. Please Cliff, stay in the real world. With real world examples. I don't care about theoretical academic crap that has no basis in the real world.

Tell me the names of two countries on Our Earth that do not have governments. Those two could be Capitalist, or Communist. As far as I know, there are zero countries that do not have a government.

Russia and North Korea are dictatorships. The former USSR and China are oligarchies. None of those four are anything close to resembling Communism, or Capitalism.

I am open to hearing any real world examples of Communism or Capitalism...

BMEP100 01-07-2019 05:50 PM

The financial failure of WOW is not altogether unexpected. Iceland
is the orignator of the (shoestring) LCC international model, years before Freddy Laker.

I lived for a short time in Iceland in the ‘70s and saw Loftleider and Iceland Air operations up close. They too had to merge to survive. Was friends with the DO.

Loftleider, IcelandAir did not join IATA, so by touching Iceland on flights between US and Europe, they could avoid having to charge regulated minimum fares. They were the original backpackers airline. The cabin seating was max certicated like sardines with no service. I think they put something like 175 in a B-720.

I can say the crews, front and back were always great partiers.

dera 01-07-2019 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2738386)

Are you citing the UN's World Happiness Report???? As far as happiness indices, I like how Finland is ranked #1 in happiness, yet has a higher suicide rate than the lowly US. Please explain that dichotomy.

You acting like an expert while saying Finland is in Scandinavia is pretty damn hilarious to me.

badflaps 01-07-2019 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2738793)
You acting like an expert while saying Finland is in Scandinavia is pretty damn hilarious to me.

I took the ferry to Turku once, didn't understand a thing they said.:D

FollowMe 01-08-2019 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2738528)
Tell me the names of two countries on Our Earth that do not have governments. Those two could be Capitalist, or Communist. As far as I know, there are zero countries that do not have a government.

Russia and North Korea are dictatorships. The former USSR and China are oligarchies. None of those four are anything close to resembling Communism, or Capitalism.

I am open to hearing any real world examples of Communism or Capitalism...

You should be open to further study on what it is you are attempting to discuss. Communism and Capitalism are two (of many) competing theories on the distribution of economic power throughout a certain market. There are variations on each which either advocate or do not advocate the state, but given it’s pretty hard to enforce any certain distribution of economic power without a monopoly on the initiation of force, they are wholly dependent on the state for their very survival.

Andy 01-11-2019 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2738793)
You acting like an expert while saying Finland is in Scandinavia is pretty damn hilarious to me.

You obviously didn't bother opening the link. It ranked Finland #1 on their happiness index. Rather ironic considering their (Finns') suicide rate and reputation for being unhappy.

As far as whether or not Finland is considered part of Scandinavia, I don't care. Here's some websites you can correct: https://www.heartmybackpack.com/finl...avian-country/
https://wizzwoo.com/download.php?q=h...nd-and-iceland
https://www.thebrokebackpacker.com/b...guide/#profile
https://www.scandinavianrail.com/

That's through page 3 of google; there are plenty more. Not many people care whether Finland is part of Scandinavia or just Scandinavia adjacent.

I'm glad that I amused you.

dera 01-11-2019 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2741057)
You obviously didn't bother opening the link. It ranked Finland #1 on their happiness index. Rather ironic considering their (Finns') suicide rate and reputation for being unhappy.

As far as whether or not Finland is considered part of Scandinavia, I don't care. Here's some websites you can correct: https://www.heartmybackpack.com/finl...avian-country/
https://wizzwoo.com/download.php?q=h...nd-and-iceland
https://www.thebrokebackpacker.com/b...guide/#profile
https://www.scandinavianrail.com/

That's through page 3 of google; there are plenty more. Not many people care whether Finland is part of Scandinavia or just Scandinavia adjacent.

I'm glad that I amused you.

Trust me, I know more about Finland and Finns than you do. And no, it's not in Scandinavia. Some people think it is, but it isn't.

NEDude 01-11-2019 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2741245)
Trust me, I know more about Finland and Finns than you do. And no, it's not in Scandinavia. Some people think it is, but it isn't.

You are correct, Finland is not Scandinavian. Nordic, yes, but not Scandinavian (there is a difference). The Finnish language is also very different than the Scandinavian languages. The Scandinavian languages are Germanic in origin, whereas Finnish is part of the Uralic family.

Floobs 01-13-2019 10:25 PM

The average American pays more in taxes or close to it than what Europeans pay. But they get so much more.

The reason is we waste money on a military we don't need.

dera 01-14-2019 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Floobs (Post 2742444)
The average American pays more in taxes or close to it than what Europeans pay. But they get so much more.

The reason is we waste money on a military we don't need.

No they don't. For some countries it's not even close.
US is below OECD average.
https://taxfoundation.org/comparison...bor-oecd-2016/


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