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Old 01-07-2019, 11:35 AM
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Great. We've now moved to making this an academic discussion on types of government which have no basis in the real world. Please Cliff, stay in the real world. With real world examples. I don't care about theoretical academic crap that has no basis in the real world.
Tell me the names of two countries on Our Earth that do not have governments. Those two could be Capitalist, or Communist. As far as I know, there are zero countries that do not have a government.

Russia and North Korea are dictatorships. The former USSR and China are oligarchies. None of those four are anything close to resembling Communism, or Capitalism.

I am open to hearing any real world examples of Communism or Capitalism...
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:50 PM
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The financial failure of WOW is not altogether unexpected. Iceland
is the orignator of the (shoestring) LCC international model, years before Freddy Laker.

I lived for a short time in Iceland in the ‘70s and saw Loftleider and Iceland Air operations up close. They too had to merge to survive. Was friends with the DO.

Loftleider, IcelandAir did not join IATA, so by touching Iceland on flights between US and Europe, they could avoid having to charge regulated minimum fares. They were the original backpackers airline. The cabin seating was max certicated like sardines with no service. I think they put something like 175 in a B-720.

I can say the crews, front and back were always great partiers.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:36 PM
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Are you citing the UN's World Happiness Report???? As far as happiness indices, I like how Finland is ranked #1 in happiness, yet has a higher suicide rate than the lowly US. Please explain that dichotomy.
You acting like an expert while saying Finland is in Scandinavia is pretty damn hilarious to me.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:47 PM
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You acting like an expert while saying Finland is in Scandinavia is pretty damn hilarious to me.
I took the ferry to Turku once, didn't understand a thing they said.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
Tell me the names of two countries on Our Earth that do not have governments. Those two could be Capitalist, or Communist. As far as I know, there are zero countries that do not have a government.

Russia and North Korea are dictatorships. The former USSR and China are oligarchies. None of those four are anything close to resembling Communism, or Capitalism.

I am open to hearing any real world examples of Communism or Capitalism...
You should be open to further study on what it is you are attempting to discuss. Communism and Capitalism are two (of many) competing theories on the distribution of economic power throughout a certain market. There are variations on each which either advocate or do not advocate the state, but given it’s pretty hard to enforce any certain distribution of economic power without a monopoly on the initiation of force, they are wholly dependent on the state for their very survival.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:50 AM
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You acting like an expert while saying Finland is in Scandinavia is pretty damn hilarious to me.
You obviously didn't bother opening the link. It ranked Finland #1 on their happiness index. Rather ironic considering their (Finns') suicide rate and reputation for being unhappy.

As far as whether or not Finland is considered part of Scandinavia, I don't care. Here's some websites you can correct: https://www.heartmybackpack.com/finl...avian-country/
https://wizzwoo.com/download.php?q=h...nd-and-iceland
https://www.thebrokebackpacker.com/b...guide/#profile
https://www.scandinavianrail.com/

That's through page 3 of google; there are plenty more. Not many people care whether Finland is part of Scandinavia or just Scandinavia adjacent.

I'm glad that I amused you.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:33 PM
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You obviously didn't bother opening the link. It ranked Finland #1 on their happiness index. Rather ironic considering their (Finns') suicide rate and reputation for being unhappy.

As far as whether or not Finland is considered part of Scandinavia, I don't care. Here's some websites you can correct: https://www.heartmybackpack.com/finl...avian-country/
https://wizzwoo.com/download.php?q=h...nd-and-iceland
https://www.thebrokebackpacker.com/b...guide/#profile
https://www.scandinavianrail.com/

That's through page 3 of google; there are plenty more. Not many people care whether Finland is part of Scandinavia or just Scandinavia adjacent.

I'm glad that I amused you.
Trust me, I know more about Finland and Finns than you do. And no, it's not in Scandinavia. Some people think it is, but it isn't.
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Trust me, I know more about Finland and Finns than you do. And no, it's not in Scandinavia. Some people think it is, but it isn't.
You are correct, Finland is not Scandinavian. Nordic, yes, but not Scandinavian (there is a difference). The Finnish language is also very different than the Scandinavian languages. The Scandinavian languages are Germanic in origin, whereas Finnish is part of the Uralic family.
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The average American pays more in taxes or close to it than what Europeans pay. But they get so much more.

The reason is we waste money on a military we don't need.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:22 AM
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The average American pays more in taxes or close to it than what Europeans pay. But they get so much more.

The reason is we waste money on a military we don't need.
No they don't. For some countries it's not even close.
US is below OECD average.
https://taxfoundation.org/comparison...bor-oecd-2016/
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