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Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2808573)

Mercenario,

You keep referring to returning to the USA, and perhaps you already answered this, but it appears that English is not your first language. Your syntax and language is broken and choppy; it sounds like you're coming from another country, to China, to the US.

If this isn't the case and you're a native speaker, it's one thing to have a few typos, but your entire conversation reads at about a sixth grade level with a lot of issues; if you're going to be applying to US carriers, you're going to have to do something about that, especially if you're pursuing this from outside the USA.

If you don’t like it, don’t read it! I am already hired in the USA because I have the experience. You are correct English is not my native language but I speak 3 languages, Spanish, English and Mandarin, I hope you can speak at least 2 and I don’t think you have 23700 hrs jet time to fly for any airline.
Just Focus on build time and learn another language and shut the **** up!!!

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Originally Posted by Mercenario (Post 2809082)

I speak three languages, but that's irrelevant.

It's hard enough to find work back in the States when flying out of the country. Harder if you write in broken English, misspell and have a difficult time conveying your message: that will be all that employers know of you.

It will be considerably harder to find work with your attitude and level of immaturity. Your writing isn't simply a matter spelling errors or syntax. You sound like a 12 year old, and your story does not add up. For someone who claims to be pulling down 300,000 a year, who claims to have interviewed with and been offered a job with Atlas, but who didn't know what Atlas makes or the terms of employment (not like you could miss it, if you're posting here), your story is more entertaining than convincing.

23,700 hours? Is this your experience level to match that three hundred thousand dollar annual salary?

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Originally Posted by Mercenario (Post 2808514)

I currently flying in China for the last 10 years. I think life was different in China 10 years ago because of the lack of foreign pilots. Everything was easy and fun. Now everything is punishments. I am talking here in China you can get downgraded to F/O tomorrow for little mistake. You all will feel like flying for the dynasty. Everybody becomes leader and they forget they were my F/O. Pay is wonderful. I make $25000 a month plus extras. But QOL is ****. I fly 2 months and get 1 month off. I am trying to get out of her As soon as possible. Medical checks are very difficult. They can bust you in the sim any time and then F/O. And F/O pay. My contract is different than the rest of the pilots because I was one of the first foreign pilots here and even with that I want to leave. China is beautiful and food is great but working for an airline is the worst. Also they think they are the best pilots in the world and that they discover the wheel. But in reality you will feel like flying in the 1960’s. They haven’t had major accidents is because ATC protects them and fly them. There are not visual approaches because they will get kill. Also if the guy in front slow down to 180kts 50NM away from the airport ATC will slow down the rest of the traffic because they don’t want to make nervous the little kid that is flying in front. Is there are thunderstorms everybody will stay on the ground because ATC will not allow anybody to go!!! To dangerous!!!!jajajaja!! I write a book about everything I have seen here!! The money is not worth for the quality of life!! I WANT TO GET THE F.....OUT OF HERE ASAP. I am already hired back in the USA. Counting my days!! I am taking a cut pay of 70% but happy!! If any one wants more information PM. Also the schedules are long some times 16hrs duty to fly 6 hrs. They make their own rules.

John: whether his spelling and punctuation is correct or not this post is "spot on" in regards to working conditions at most mainland Chinese airlines.

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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 2809620)

John: whether his spelling and punctuation is correct or not this post is "spot on" in regards to working conditions at most mainland Chinese airlines.

Thank you Typoon! I was just trying to help and warn the pilot group about flying in China.

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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 2809620)

John: whether his spelling and punctuation is correct or not this post is "spot on" in regards to working conditions at most mainland Chinese airlines.

I'm aware of that, having flown there and having taught quite a few Chinese pilots for mainland Chinese airlines.

He wants out, however, and it's more than just syntax and sloppy writing.

"Go **** yourself" is not the language of a professional seeking to make a move among professionals, nor particularly conducive to being taken seriously. There are a lot of us here who have flown for foreign operators, who fly internationally, and who fully understand the challenges, especially of getting hired stateside while working abroad.

The original poster opened the thread: he posed the question; a more appropriate response, and certainly a more mature one, might be "thanks for the replies," rather than "shut the **** up," when he doesn't like what he hears.

The truth hurts, as TonyC likes to point out, only when it should.

Everybody, listen up.

Do. Not. Read. Posts. From. JohnBurke.

.....It's just not worth reading his posts. He has been on my Ignore List seemingly forever.

If anyone needs help using the Ignore function, please do not hesitate to ask.

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Originally Posted by PT6 Flyer (Post 2809739)

Everybody, listen up.

Do. Not. Read. Posts. From. JohnBurke.

....... It's just not worth reading his posts. He has been on my Ignore List seemingly forever.

If anyone needs help using the Ignore function, please do not hesitate to ask.

I think PT6, that the majority of members of APC are what I like to refer to as educated consumers. We have the ability to filter out rants, rages, total out an out false statements. While, I’m not defending John, nor does he need me to be his advocate. John and many others, IMO, has contributed posts of value...

APC does not need a “Town Crier” to warn us... but your comments are also of value to many. That said one can’t please 100 percent of the crowd.

So be it... now on to more important tasks... Well I’m back home on my block off days and i’t’s my Sunday... and that means a supply of NY Times Crossword puzzle, Bloody Marys, Lox Eggs and Onions (LEOs), fresh bagels from H & H... News shows to catch up on......and what ever.

Enjoy the day folks.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2809738)

Yeah... language may not be appropriate for a professional. But who hasn’t had a potty mouth moment... or in this case potty keyboard moment? Give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Who knows... it was a long FTD periods, minimum rest, crappy layover hotels... posting on APC when really tired, sense of urgency....

Many of us expats have balanced current and transitional jobs with many obstacles... arranging interviews at the next adventure was like trying to get the all planets of the universe to be perfectly aligned from during scheduled block days off.