Typhoon, koru and anyone else...Contract questions!
07-12-2008 | 05:04 PM
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From: tri current
I am unable to PM yet (under 25 threads). Currently I am looking at contract work and I have some questions:
1) After the contract I notice some companies give you a bonus if you continue to work for them...with the contract completed does this mean you must renegotiate health benefits, housing (if any), commuting benefits...or do they normally continue as initiated...= It depends. My experience is that contract terms tend to reduce as time goes on. This isn't always the case, but now with the glut of pilots on the market I would forecast a reduction in terms going forward. Get the best contract you can and get it for as long as you can. Contracts will get amended unilaterally when conditions dictate. Both Singapore and Korean have done that in the past ( during SARS ).
2) Do they normally ask for passport and license to be sent prior to interview? (thanks skyone..im still weary on this one) Yes, not a big deal if it's a reputable agency.
3) After the contract...do the companies normally like to keep you working for them (will they find other contracts for us)? Not necessarily. You are a mercenary and your services are only as good as the skills and resume you bring to the contract. Once the airline doesn't need you they will get rid of you as you are a foreign devil. At that point if the contract agency has need for your services on another contract it's possible you could slip into another job, but typically there would be some period of unemployment.
4) Are there possibilities of skipping the middleman (contract company) and working directly for the airline to get the full amount?
1) After the contract I notice some companies give you a bonus if you continue to work for them...with the contract completed does this mean you must renegotiate health benefits, housing (if any), commuting benefits...or do they normally continue as initiated...= It depends. My experience is that contract terms tend to reduce as time goes on. This isn't always the case, but now with the glut of pilots on the market I would forecast a reduction in terms going forward. Get the best contract you can and get it for as long as you can. Contracts will get amended unilaterally when conditions dictate. Both Singapore and Korean have done that in the past ( during SARS ).
2) Do they normally ask for passport and license to be sent prior to interview? (thanks skyone..im still weary on this one) Yes, not a big deal if it's a reputable agency.
3) After the contract...do the companies normally like to keep you working for them (will they find other contracts for us)? Not necessarily. You are a mercenary and your services are only as good as the skills and resume you bring to the contract. Once the airline doesn't need you they will get rid of you as you are a foreign devil. At that point if the contract agency has need for your services on another contract it's possible you could slip into another job, but typically there would be some period of unemployment.
4) Are there possibilities of skipping the middleman (contract company) and working directly for the airline to get the full amount?
I read with interest the story published by an American chap who had a rather rough time of it. To be fair, after his first paragraph I could have told you he wouldn't get hired.
Typhoonpilot
07-18-2008 | 07:00 AM
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From: B737-800 Captain, Dubai
I have noticed that the attitude, like in so many other areas of life in general, seems to be a big deal in getting hired. I certainly have an attitude of willingness and ready sacrifice. I genuinely want to work for Etihad or Emirates. How best to portray that?
Thanks!
Randy
Thanks!
Randy
07-18-2008 | 08:43 AM
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From: B787. Left seat.
I have noticed that the attitude, like in so many other areas of life in general, seems to be a big deal in getting hired. I certainly have an attitude of willingness and ready sacrifice. I genuinely want to work for Etihad or Emirates. How best to portray that?
Thanks!
Randy
Thanks!
Randy
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