Contracts in China - WASINC Grand China Express
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 769
Oh cool...then we agree! happy days!
To your other point about if the pay was that bad why take the job? We are a commodity...right now there are alot of us, so the buy (airlines) can be picky and pay less. At some point there will be more pilots and we can charge more. Lets say you are working for Airline A and airline b comes along and says, Hey we are desperate for pilots, I will double your pay. So you go to A and tell them that you are leaving for more money, they have the ability to revise that contract and pay more if they really want to keep you. Believe me, I would much rather stay at a company forever (who wants to go thru all that training over and over) but you have to also think of yourself and your family and your future. For me to leave a company, the next job would have to be far better than what I was leaving to justify the additional headache!
To your other point about if the pay was that bad why take the job? We are a commodity...right now there are alot of us, so the buy (airlines) can be picky and pay less. At some point there will be more pilots and we can charge more. Lets say you are working for Airline A and airline b comes along and says, Hey we are desperate for pilots, I will double your pay. So you go to A and tell them that you are leaving for more money, they have the ability to revise that contract and pay more if they really want to keep you. Believe me, I would much rather stay at a company forever (who wants to go thru all that training over and over) but you have to also think of yourself and your family and your future. For me to leave a company, the next job would have to be far better than what I was leaving to justify the additional headache!
#23
#24
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: A320
Posts: 2
i've talked to several pilots in china now with wasinc. for what its worth contracts don't mean anything in china - they will do whatever they feel like doing. don't think that because you sign a contract with wasinc it's any different. wasinc is just a headhunter for filling seats. once you get to china you are basically on your own and wasinc can't do much. the chinese will make up rules regardless of what the contract says, and they will be right because you are the foreigner. i've talked to pilots who are in china now who say wasinc often won't respond to emails when there is a problem because there is nothing they can do. also expect to be working illegally on a tourist visa for an indefinite period of time, at least a year, they will tell you it's ok but it is illegal. you won't get any more than a few days off the schedules change every other day you will not be able to commute. expect two months to a year to be reimbursed for anything and the pollution is bad. the good side: it's cheap and you will probably save some money.
#25
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: A320FO
Posts: 11
If anyone needs to get there circling restriction removed I am looking for a partner. I spoke with FSI Houston today and was told it's $2045 but If I bring someone with me we each get a $300 discount. Whole process takes about 5 hours and can be done in one day.
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,333
Does anyone have any knowledge/experience with WASINC contracts.
I am thinking about trying the flying in China for Grand China Express(through wasinc) and want to insure that I have as much info as possible. (Primary concern is contract penalties for leaving early.)
Anyone got a friend there now?
Thanks.
I am thinking about trying the flying in China for Grand China Express(through wasinc) and want to insure that I have as much info as possible. (Primary concern is contract penalties for leaving early.)
Anyone got a friend there now?
Thanks.
He seems to like working there but he is not sure what will happen when JAL gets rid of the classic 747s next month. They've never furloughed before so he's hoping he'll get to sit home with pay until they bring other aircraft on board but no one knows for sure...
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