Emirates Vs JALways.....
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Emirates Vs JALways.....
Wow, nice forum....haven't really found a negative post yet! Well done! Lot's of good posts with varying points of view with everyone left to make up their own decisions. Far cry from all those miserable folks on some of those "other" sites.....
In any case, I have no problem finding info on Emirates but does anyone know anything about JALways in HNL and what it's like to work there?
Thanks in advance,
In any case, I have no problem finding info on Emirates but does anyone know anything about JALways in HNL and what it's like to work there?
Thanks in advance,
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There is a thread going on one of the other sites right now about the JALWays stuff. Most of it is informative. One of the guys responding is currently on the contract now and has been contributing his opinion. Flightinfo, in he Furloughed section I believe.
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JalWays
JalWays pays well. Very stable and spoonfed. I think FO's start out around 90 an hour with a 60 Guarantee but I think they may have changed it to a 50 hour guarantee first three years or something. Three contract companies to deal with: IASCO, HAC's, and Wasinc. IASCO and HAC's have been around for years and are well managed. They just leave you alone until an issue is brought up by you or the Japanese. WasInc is the new guy on the block and not so well managed. Also with HACs and IASCO you are vested 3 months after you start, WasInc you will have to be working the line for three years before they consider you vested in the pension plan. All three are Honolulu based - this is probably the biggest problem with the job. I'd say 80% commute from the mainland or other places - and when working max schedules this means maybe 8 off days a month. The commute out to the rock can be nerve racking. Especially since JAL doesn't have jumpseat agreements with anyone.
Plan on working around 17 or 18 days a month. Even though they could have you for 20 or 21, its rare.
They are having problems with the Japanese Pilots labor union (have always had problems with this union) as they plan to retire the 747 Classic and move everyone to the 747-400. The labor union does not want foreigners flying the 400 as this is the flagship at JAL. The JAL Pilots labor union have never wanted any foriegners working there and have occasionally acted immature towards the foriegn pilots working at JALways. Lots of other good info but too much too post here.
Plan on working around 17 or 18 days a month. Even though they could have you for 20 or 21, its rare.
They are having problems with the Japanese Pilots labor union (have always had problems with this union) as they plan to retire the 747 Classic and move everyone to the 747-400. The labor union does not want foreigners flying the 400 as this is the flagship at JAL. The JAL Pilots labor union have never wanted any foriegners working there and have occasionally acted immature towards the foriegn pilots working at JALways. Lots of other good info but too much too post here.
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A pilot for JALWays posted on this forum awhile back. If Japanese contract flying is your thing you might want to take a look. The guy who started the thread ended up taking a 767 contract with ANA.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/showthread.php?t=1995
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/showthread.php?t=1995
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