Metro Batavia...
#11
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I think that is the definition of racism. Labeling an entire country that you probably have been to. I hope you enjoy your job of flying around white trash McDonalds eating fat slobs.
#12
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I went to Metro Batavia's website and try to see if they are hiring. But they asked u to log in as a guest on the online recruitment using ID:guest and password: guest. But the site doesn't work. Does anyone know who the contact person is so ppl can drop their resume?
#13
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I'm aware of the generally low pay in Indonesia (though $4000 is more than LionAir I think)... the only way the Indo gov lets them hire expats is if they pay the same as the local guys.
Since you've brought nationality and basket weaving onto this thread... I'd rather spend my time with those people down there in Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippine Islands than in any city in the US, so hey, maybe it's not for you.
Since you've brought nationality and basket weaving onto this thread... I'd rather spend my time with those people down there in Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippine Islands than in any city in the US, so hey, maybe it's not for you.
#14
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I went to Metro Batavia's website and try to see if they are hiring. But they asked u to log in as a guest on the online recruitment using ID:guest and password: guest. But the site doesn't work. Does anyone know who the contact person is so ppl can drop their resume?
#15
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If you get your rocks off flying a half-maintained 733 in a tropical depression with a 250 hour FO who can barely speak English, for $4000 (I completely understand some people are OK with that), go for it!!! Don't worry--you'll be at Ryanair soon!!! LOL...you have no idea what you're in for "bule" ;->
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#17
This post below was posted on another site when I tried to look these guys up.. They want a 737 type with a time in the aircraft and several thousand hours. The newspaper articles on all of the safety issues are kind of eye opening...... in the first one a whole section of wing comes off in flight, one plane just gets lost and strays over 300 kim, in another, delayed passengers get so angry they storm on another flight and take it over...
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html
Safety Board to investigate Batavia Air's strayed plane | The Jakarta Post
Batavia Air jet fails takeoff | The Jakarta Post
145 Batavia Air Passengers Safe After In-Flight Engine Failure - The Jakarta Globe
http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1127620.php
Be careful !!
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A friend of mine was there for a very short time and left due to bad living conditions, a rediculous work schedule, and unsafe airplanes. He quit when they didn't pay him for a month and threatened himwith his job if he wouldn't take an airplane that had items out of service that were on the MEL...
The pay for a Capt is $4,000, FO is $2,000 to fly a min of 100 hours per month!! He said the apartment had several pilots living in it, was very run down and dirty, and was located in a very bad part of Jakarta. Also Air Batavia was listed a year or two ago as one of the top six most unsafe airlines in the region, but they may be trying to change that. They have had several instances in the last couple of months of maintenance problems (engine failures in flight). They give the passengers a cup of water and bread on the flight... better than a little bag of peanuts I guess.
If you have the option to go somewhere else... you may want to consider it. From what I was told, they are very bad at the moment. You will make more instructing or flying as a copilot in a regional.
a section of wing comes off in flight ???
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html
a plane gets lost and strays over 300 km?
Safety Board to investigate Batavia Air's strayed plane | The Jakarta Post
Grinding sounds coming out of the engine, but they launch anyway?
Batavia Air jet fails takeoff | The Jakarta Post
Just an engine failure..
145 Batavia Air Passengers Safe After In-Flight Engine Failure - The Jakarta Globe
I like this one..
http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1127620.php
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html
Safety Board to investigate Batavia Air's strayed plane | The Jakarta Post
Batavia Air jet fails takeoff | The Jakarta Post
145 Batavia Air Passengers Safe After In-Flight Engine Failure - The Jakarta Globe
http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1127620.php
Be careful !!
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A friend of mine was there for a very short time and left due to bad living conditions, a rediculous work schedule, and unsafe airplanes. He quit when they didn't pay him for a month and threatened himwith his job if he wouldn't take an airplane that had items out of service that were on the MEL...
The pay for a Capt is $4,000, FO is $2,000 to fly a min of 100 hours per month!! He said the apartment had several pilots living in it, was very run down and dirty, and was located in a very bad part of Jakarta. Also Air Batavia was listed a year or two ago as one of the top six most unsafe airlines in the region, but they may be trying to change that. They have had several instances in the last couple of months of maintenance problems (engine failures in flight). They give the passengers a cup of water and bread on the flight... better than a little bag of peanuts I guess.
If you have the option to go somewhere else... you may want to consider it. From what I was told, they are very bad at the moment. You will make more instructing or flying as a copilot in a regional.
a section of wing comes off in flight ???
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html
a plane gets lost and strays over 300 km?
Safety Board to investigate Batavia Air's strayed plane | The Jakarta Post
Grinding sounds coming out of the engine, but they launch anyway?
Batavia Air jet fails takeoff | The Jakarta Post
Just an engine failure..
145 Batavia Air Passengers Safe After In-Flight Engine Failure - The Jakarta Globe
I like this one..
http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1127620.php
Last edited by Schnides; 10-15-2009 at 04:17 AM.
#18
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 2
Metro Batavia
Jowong1,
I found this email address from their training center. I was going to try that. Let me know if you get anywhere OK. PM to keep in contact.
HRD Department
PT. Metro Batavia
[email protected]
Sincerely,
Peter
I found this email address from their training center. I was going to try that. Let me know if you get anywhere OK. PM to keep in contact.
HRD Department
PT. Metro Batavia
[email protected]
Sincerely,
Peter
#19
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 12
#20
Good luck with this company....
Here's a cut and paste from Pprune on them.. some of the posts were bad..
The Scoop
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Just a little inside scoop on whats going on at Batavia. I have a feeling there will be others posting more detailed horror stories here soon.
First of all communicating with Batavia is like pulling teeth, huge language barrier and almost zero information comes out of Jakarta.
Currently there is a group of Captains and F/O's sitting in Jakarta waiting for license conversion. Most have been waiting for up to 6 weeks. There seems to be allot of politics coming out of the Indonesian DGCA towards expat license conversion. All logbooks and previous flying history will be scrutinized to the max. You better have no errors in your log books, all log books have to be stamped and certified by your previous employers. You will also need letter from previous employers certifying your time.
Many have been asked a whole array of ludicrous requirements to verify previous employments., such as provide ID cards from previous jobs....
As of Yet NO expat have been granted a license conversion
You are expected to pay the full airfare to Jakarta by yourself and you will NOT be reimbursed if you don't pass the PC check upon arrival. .
Housing is in semi furnished small apartments with DOUBLE occupancy, yes you have to share a small apartment. Very professional
And now to the pay, 2000$ USD for F/O's and 4000$ USD for Captains.
They expect you to fly up to 110 hours a month.
Do your homework on safety history of the airline, and what you are getting in to.
Is it worth getting violated, or be a smoking hole in the ground, for this third world working conditions?.
The Scoop
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Just a little inside scoop on whats going on at Batavia. I have a feeling there will be others posting more detailed horror stories here soon.
First of all communicating with Batavia is like pulling teeth, huge language barrier and almost zero information comes out of Jakarta.
Currently there is a group of Captains and F/O's sitting in Jakarta waiting for license conversion. Most have been waiting for up to 6 weeks. There seems to be allot of politics coming out of the Indonesian DGCA towards expat license conversion. All logbooks and previous flying history will be scrutinized to the max. You better have no errors in your log books, all log books have to be stamped and certified by your previous employers. You will also need letter from previous employers certifying your time.
Many have been asked a whole array of ludicrous requirements to verify previous employments., such as provide ID cards from previous jobs....
As of Yet NO expat have been granted a license conversion
You are expected to pay the full airfare to Jakarta by yourself and you will NOT be reimbursed if you don't pass the PC check upon arrival. .
Housing is in semi furnished small apartments with DOUBLE occupancy, yes you have to share a small apartment. Very professional
And now to the pay, 2000$ USD for F/O's and 4000$ USD for Captains.
They expect you to fly up to 110 hours a month.
Do your homework on safety history of the airline, and what you are getting in to.
Is it worth getting violated, or be a smoking hole in the ground, for this third world working conditions?.
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