wayne_krr

Typhoon, you're absolutely right that I haven't contributed much to the debate and for that I apologise. I have no doubt that you are sincere in wanting the absolute best for US pilots who face joblessness or furlough. We have had this debate over the years and from my perspective, perhaps selfishly, I have not wanted to re-enter. I have never taken the position that guys shouldn't take the job here, I took one myself after all. My concern has always been that to promote EK and effectively perform a recruiting role for the company
means that you take on the responsibility for ensuring that potential employees know all aspects of life in the UAE and the company, including the very worst. From my position I don't think you do that. You are very factual and balanced and that would work well in a decent society. Anonymity can be very important in a country like the UAE.
I won't re-enter the fray but leave my personal opinions out from here on in. Thanks for your mostly decent interchanges, a private message, excepted and apologies to the wider aviation community for the thread drift.

The Dominican

Pretty classless to post names on a site that you don't even have to be logged in to read.

SIGMET

Any news from sbd that went to the open house yesterday?
Especially if they are still requiring the jet time to be over 30 Tons?

Thks...

B757200ER

Agree 100%. TP gives you the straight scoop, regardless whether he champions EK or not. Always good info with good insight.

LIOG41

I only heard from one person there that spoke to them (I have no interest) and they were told that they meet and well exceed all the quals except for the 30 ton deal. So they told them to try and get their hands on a plane over 30 tons, "just for one hour"...that's all they need. Ridiculous. I say give it six months when they are hard-up for pilots.

SIGMET

HI LiO,

Thanks for the detail, It doesn't make much sense but if thats the case they are already changing their policy. When i went to the MIA open house they said that the 2000H jet multi crew needed to be above 30T.
I did not qualify then because I have 2000H jet PIC but only 500H in CRJ-700 above 30T and the other 1500H EMB-140 below 30T.

SO I dont get this get 1H above 30T and you are good to go????

Anyway if anybody has something else about the topic or an EMAIL that I can inquire about it...

Thanks again.

imr125

Yup-they want over 30 tons. They may drop/waive it in the future.

motojet

I'm towards the bottom of the list and I've gone up 45 numbers in 8 months. By my possibly inaccurate calculations, that's less than a 3% attrition rate per year since we now have over 2400 pilots at EK.

fatbus

Do keep in mind that they will tell you that there is 200 A/C on order but what they don't say is there is also 100 retirements from now to 2020. 2500 pilots now and 4000 by 2020, do the math. someone hired now will not have an upgrade planned unless attrition continues . hiring is about 350-450 per year for the next few ( 4000 ) total. 777 FO's will have to go to the bus for upgrade more than likely the 350. 330 rosters not very good at the moment , 2-3 years from now it will the 777 with the poor rosters

SIGMET

Well i updated my app yesterday and they sent me a mail back saying that the 2000H need to be over 30T, Bummer!

Here it is:
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I am writing in relation to your application to join Emirates as a First Officer. We have now had the opportunity to review your application.

Currently, Emirates' minimum requirements are as follows:

First Officers
- A minimum of 4000 hours total flying time
- (May include 25% P3 or FEO time to a max of 500 hr) and a minimum of 2000 hours on multi-crew, multi-engine jet aircraft with an MTOW >30T (P3 time cannot be used for this requirement)

OR

- 2500 hours multi-crew, multi-engine jet aircraft with an MTOW >30T, in which case the total hour requirement can be disregarded (P3 time cannot be used for this requirement)
- ICAO ATPL
- Age: Maximum 51 years (before 52nd birthday) or less at commencement of course

Note: Candidates within the 48-52 age bracket are required to have command experience on multi engine turbo jet aero planes with a MTOW of > 30 tons.

At present, you do not meet our minimum requirements. Please continue to update your application to ensure that your professional experience (including flying hours, aircraft types and dates flown) is correctly reflected. Your application will be reconsidered once you meet our minimum requirements.

Best wishes in your career and personal endeavours and thank you for your interest in Emirates.

Yours sincerely,

Pilot Recruitment

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