Yep, green card holders can fly in the U.S. as well. No sponsor needed. Same thing in Brazil...you either have to be a citizen or legal permanent resident.

It could be worse. Some countries require you to be a natural born citizen. England is like that I believe...as is Japan.

 

I worked in Brazil for about a year, threw a loophole in the law. I found the pay, equipment, and attitudes better than the US. Brazil has sustained economic growth because of the off shore oil reserves, world cup, and Olympics for the next set of years. Aviation has increased 18% last year and this year its expected to top that. This, in addition to the law that only allows Brazilians to fly commercially, is creating a true pilot shortage thus increasing salaries.


I’m wondering can you fly with your RNE (greencard)? Its my understanding that you have to be a citizen, as per Código Brasileiro de Aeronáutica § 1° A função remunerada a bordo de aeronaves nacionais é privativa de titulares de licenças específicas, emitidas pelo Ministério da Aeronáutica e reservada a brasileiros natos ou naturalizados.

I would like to know if there is anyone on the forum that knows if this has changed to allow green card holders the right to work.

 

Oi Embrarer, can you please show me were in the Código Brasileiro de Aeronáutica legal residents (RNE card holders) can work as a pilot, I cant find it. If its true this is great news. thanks

 

Hey 4castclr,

You are right, RNE holders can't fly commercially. When typing I confused them with Naturalized Brazilians who are allowed.

If a person has their RNE (Brazilian green card) then the next step to citizenship is an easy one. Of course, nothing can beat the fastest route: Marry a Brazilian.

I know of a few guys who did and today are sitting pretty down there as Brazilian citizens enjoying full privileges as Brazilians.

So to correct: To fly in Brazil you have to be a Brazilian citizen, although you can be a naturalized Brazilian citizen. You don't have to have been born in Brazil.

This is of course just the basic requirement to set in motion the process of converting your licences from FAA/JAA to Brazil's national aviation agency ANAC. That process I hear takes typically 2 to 6 months.

 

obrigado, Yeah I know many mulheres that are moito goooostoosaaa!!!! I'm in the first phase of converting the license but don't what to spend the money to convert if I'm unable to work.
does anyone know what the deal is on dual citizenship? is it possible?

 

I have dual citizenship, so yes it is possible. I enter and leave Brazil with my Brazilian passport and do the same in the U.S. with my American one.

If anybody tries to tell you that x country doesn't allow dual citizenship take it with a HUGE grain of salt.

Most people don't know any better. No country can demand you renounce citizenship to another country as a requirement of becoming a citizen of theirs. With that said, I'm not sure what the naturalization rules in Brazil are....such as if you have to live there X amount of years before applying, if you have to be currently living there, etc...

As for converting your license.... I believe as a foreigner you can only convert to a PPL until you naturalize. After that you can get your CPL, ATP, etc... so I would make naturalization your first priority THEN work on converting your licenses. On the other hand, I guess it wouldn't hurt having a Brazilian PPL for the time being and get some flying under your belt...get used to Portuguese ATC, etc..

 

That is great news I will look into it when I get back to Brazil for carnival, thanks for your help! please keep in touch!

 

I spent a few months in Asia. Not the story I heard from Brazilian pilots, not even close. But if that's what you say, then its probably true, I wouldn't know.

Not to argue with you, I really don't care, It's not like I'm planing on going there, Just that I heard a different version, and it wasn't as you're describing it, that's all.

but anyway moving on.

 

Those pilots you met in Asia lived in a different Brazil, different economic reality. It was the reason they were not in Brazil in the first place back then. Imagine being an MD-11 captain with no job...you would run to Asia as well.

No need to get angry or frustrated about it...glad you don't care

But next time I would suggest prefacing your statements with, "I heard..." rather than making it seem so definitive.

To be fair, what you heard and repeated here was not wrong per se...there was a time when it was true. It is just not the reality of the "new" Brazil.

For some perspective, you would be suprised to hear what some American pilots flying for Emirates, Cathay, and others would say about the U.S.A. Let's just say that the tea party crowd would not be pleased.

 

If you already have the green card, that's true. If you don't and are seeking a job, you'll need a company to sponsor you to start the process - which is what I meant to say above. (Very simplified - experts forgive me).

I wouldn't be surprised at all, and many in the "tea party crowd" would agree with them.