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Originally Posted by elmetal
(Post 975203)
You're right and while you didn't come out and say it, it sounded like you said I was wrong.
I never said the US makes you give up your original citizenship. I said they make you renounce your allegiance. What they mean is if the US goes to war with your country of birth, you have to pledge you will fight for the US As a person engaged to a foreigner I have been doing a ton of research on this subject recently, both with the option of her immigrating here, or me immigrating to Europe. Thought I'd throw some clarification on the subject out there for those who might be weighing options. |
Originally Posted by NEDude
(Post 975282)
Sorry, never meant to imply you were wrong. There just seemed to be a lot of confusion as to what actually happens when you immigrate here, or get citizenship in another country.
As a person engaged to a foreigner I have been doing a ton of research on this subject recently, both with the option of her immigrating here, or me immigrating to Europe. Thought I'd throw some clarification on the subject out there for those who might be weighing options. It's especially saddening when you see the difference of how hard it is based on where the person is from as far as getting a visa, or citizenship even... Oh well, my battle for now is over! |
Originally Posted by embraer
(Post 953411)
Part 135 as 4castclr mentioned pays better. Lider is the biggest as far as I know and probably pays the best. I know airlines down there are now officially in a wage war with the executive aviation sector in an attempt to attract more pilots to the 121 world.
But 5,000 to 8,000 a month is really good down there..especially if you have no kids. Living in Sao Paulo it would be borderline...but in any other city R$ 8,000 puts you in the upper middle class with no kids. And of course that is just starting pay. It goes up from there. I know for a fact that TAM captains are bringing in over R$ 20,000 a month. That will gMet you somewhere :) Azul pay 3500 reais to 5000 reais after tax Gol 5000 reais to 7000 reais after tax Tam 6000 to 8000 after tax Captain Azul 7000 reais to 9500 reais after tax Gol 10000reais to 13000 Tam 11000 to 14000. Gol and Tam are Sao Paulo home based (no beach,no bikinis hehe) AZul is Campinas Home base You have 8 days off monthly usually. Per diem is about 1200 reais month Tax on salary is about 35% month There is no house allowance or food card or healthcare or bus card ! There is no medic insurance (GOL and TAM) 1,75 $real is about 1,00 us$ A standar car like Honda Civic cost about 80.000 $reais An apartment with 500 sq ft on a good Sao Paulo neighborhood between 700.000 1.200.000 reais. Scholl for Kids : learning just Portuguese between 1000reais and 1500 reais each kid, 2 languages includding english minimum 2500 reais each kid. Fuel Gas: 11 reais us galon public transportation is a caos Car traffic i is heavy ,on rush hour you take 2 hours to run 40 km betewenn Sao Paulo 2 major airports. BigMac 10 reais IPAD (wifi 64gb) 2000 reais |
It could be worse. Some countries require you to be a natural born citizen. England is like that I believe...as is Japan. Dude based on this piece of information I'd say you need to to get your facts straight, there are a TON of expat pilots flying contract in Japan. |
Let me enlighten you sir. After having spent a career in law enforcement, I can tell you that unless there is probable cause that supports that a criminal act has been committed, in the USA, you cannot "hold" someone. If a similar event had been in the US, it would have been investigated as an accident, not a criminal act unless there was clear evidence that it was an intentional action. Therefore, as per our constitution, within a reasonable time, i.e. hours, not days one cannot be, as you put it "held" without cause. There is a HUGE difference and a line between and investigative detention and an arrest. Detentions do not last for days. You might condiser looking up the more complete definition of reasonable suspicion, probable cause, investigative detention, and arrest. That would help clear up your apparent misunderstanding of what it takes here in the US to "hold" someone. I hope that this clears up any confusion on the part of any other readers on this forum.
Originally Posted by The Dominican
(Post 948932)
I hope that we never, EVER have a similar incident in US soil, but try to imagine a scenario where two pilots get involved in a midair collision that resulted in a crash of a midsize airliner and the initial ATC readout is that they were in the wrong altitude for that segment (assigned or not) or that the ATC readout was showing an erratic climb/descend pattern (caused by mode C inadvertently being switched off), If you think that they would not be detained by the authorities after they landed here in the U.S of A. you are being very naive. The fallout here in the US would be a complete circus fueled by speculation and media hype and like I said, I hope that we never find out.
In my opinion the investigation was handled with an open mind by the Brazilian lead investigator and at the end he came up with a very sobering and impartial judgement of the causes of this tragedy. Anyway, sorry for the thread drift |
Originally Posted by BrasaPilot
(Post 972597)
Having dual citizenship, I can atest that the economy in Brazil is getting better and better. More and more now, I think about hoing back and flying down there. The other problem that they are running into pilots down there is the English. Last year whem I went back home I had the opportunity to ride the jumpseat (even though I had a ticket)(I knew the capt. Which was a total coincidence). Talking to the F/O, he had been on the A320 for 10 years and tried the English test 3 times, but did not score high enough for international flying. According to him, if a Brazilian pilot like myself went back to Brazil to fly, you would be put straight into a 777/330/767 on international routes. Seniority doesnt mean much as far as I know. Pertaining to what equipment you fly. Also as a 10 year FO on a A320 he was making good money compared to tje cost of living down there. I think there is a light at the end of the tunnel to fly in Brazil, with the economy tje way is going and the world cup and olympics coming up, a lot will change and the economy will only grow.
My 2 cents. Sorry for the errors, damn phone!!! |
Originally Posted by pdub20s
(Post 974883)
You make a good point. Im a teacher at an english school here in RIO specificaly to help them pass the ANAC test. And my last student told me that 72 pilots from TAM failed the english course. Thats a lot!!!
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Originally Posted by elmetal
(Post 974969)
What are TAMs mins nowadays?
Would they lower the mins for someone with ICAO 6, degree, and inside ref? English level 4 Icao commercial pilot multi-engine license Be Brazilien born or citizen |
Originally Posted by elmetal
(Post 953453)
That's exactly what I mean, for Sao Paulo..
yeah I can confirm the TAM Captain, I personally know 2 who make over 25 |
Originally Posted by Brazagringo
(Post 979576)
1 $real is about 1,75 us$
A standar car like Honda Civic cost about 80.000 $reais Fuel Gas: 11 reais us galon Not saying you're wrong, seems like you definitely know the situation down there, I'm just trying to figure out if something got lost in translation or if things are really that ridiculously overpriced. |
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