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Hi ladies and gents,

Can anyone send or inform me on how the 60 hr a month 777 schedule out of LAX work with CSA? Anyone there already? all help would be greatly appreciated as Im looking to submit my interest and see where it goes.

Cheers

Heard they are a bit harsh on the interview for American expats. Had some friends interview and all rejected. This was a year ago but things may have changed.

FO or Cptn contracts? What are the T & C's like?

777 Captain schedule out of LAX , more interested in the 60 hr lower pay contract. Thanks for any info...

Cheers

China Southern only has reverse roster patterns available in Melbourne and Brisbane. They are promising other bases as soon as enough qualified applicants choose those bases ( the ones they are advertising ). That was current as of a month or two ago. If they have opened new reverse roster bases I haven't heard. Best to check with Longreach or Tasman as they seem to be in the know on current events.

I've seen copies of the Melbourne and Brisbane schedules. They looked reasonable. Not that I am recommending either of the two, but I bet if you contacted BB at Tasman he would show you the schedules since he has them on a powerpoint slide.



Typhoonpilot

A Chinese Airline harsh and not passing foreign pilots at an interview? Surely you jest!

Correcto señor.......! I don't think it is about American pilots since they turn down folks from all corners!

About the promises of reverse rosters in new cities when they get enough pilots etc. I'm still waiting for that ORD base that they told us about during initial training 7 years ago.:D (I don't work there mind you, its just the general feeling i have about the place, take at face value) If you take this job, be content with being based in Guangzhou for the duration of the contract, if anything else opens up (big IF) then it's gravy but if you get this gig thinking you will be based in LA or San Fran in a year, you will get your heart broken and not enjoy the experience.

What Dominican just posted is EXTREMELY important for any job in China. Go for the job for what it is, right now. Not for some promise of an upgrade, new rating, or new base in the future.

The job postings come from offers made by 21 year old office staff at the airline. They are holding a carrot in front of you to try to get you to bite.

Actually long term, foreign bases will most likely go away. Locals get a huge override to fly international (I believe Hainan is 100%). As soon as they have enough locals to fly those routes, your foreign base will go away or you will just DH to CAN to start your domestic trip. Most likely it will go away.

China is the only place I can think of where Americans are the biggest single group of contract pilots (definitely excluding 330 and 340 fleets).

The recruiting staff at my airline said one of the reasons is we pass the ATP written at a much higher rate. The chinese copied FAR's (down to the number, i.e. FAR 121.625).

The passing rate is extremely low for everybody at all Chinese airlines. If you are over 50 the chance of passing the initial medical are very low. If you don't study a lot, you won't pass the ATP written. IF you can't fly a raw data, single engine NDB approach with multiple other failures, you won't pass your sim.

Unfortunately the medical never gets any easier.

Last time I did a raw data single engine NDB appr I was in a Cessna 172!!!