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Originally Posted by outaluckagain (Post 1782027)

What is being said is still far superior to what I may expect to earn in the US. First 3 years at a regional, then finally a start at a major US airline.

The biggest short coming at CX is obviously the social and family aspect. Really not a good idea to start a family living in HK.

I have checked things out and weighed one against the other. The money will be better at CX since the oppertunity to make real pay will come sooner than it would at a US regional. Not saying CX pays better than a US major....Just that it will take at least 3 years before I may expect to get hired at a US major.

All all in all, I will stick to the US regional to US major route, because of the downside of living in HK and the not mentioned health issues of HK air polution. The WHO recently stated that air polution causes cancer....which we allready knew.

I don't agree that CX is only for younger guys....but I can see your point that it may be rather time consuming. Years before upgrade is achieved means less time left to get back to the US to start again at a US major.

You will spend more than than 3 years at a regional before you make it to a major. Bank on that. You should expect 10 years or maybe never making it at all.

Papoo- thanks for all the info, I really appreciate you taking the time to write all of that.

I just got an email from CX last week asking to fill out the flight times and medical info. Any word on the future of hiring there or how long to hear back?

Also, I have an ATP with roughly 4000 hours. I wouldn't mind SO for a year, but I read upgrade to FO is about 3 years. Are there certain requirements for SO's to upgrade to FO's that aren't being met from these pilots with 250 hours + 2 years experience? Curious if flight hours make it possible to upgrade to FO sooner than most?

Also looking for a basic summary of the process of going through the SO program. interview/ Adelaide/ type rating... etc.

Thanks for the responses guys/ gals.

Yes its a 3 year upgrade with no real requirements for internals... its just a seniority order and after 3 years or whatever they will know you performance.

With the A350's coming, is this growth? Is US or EU basing based on seniority?

More or less seniroity assuming your already on type

I have been trying to get hired with CX for over 6 years now. Part 121 PIC experience (regionals). No accidents or incidents on record. Bachelors degree but still no offer. Are their hiring or do I have to pay for a wide body type rating? Is there something I am simply over looking? I for got to mention I have over 5000 hours for flight time.

I filled out the paperwork and sent it in almost a month ago, still no word. Do they take a while to get back to you to set up an interview? Will there be assessments here in the states or Canada? Or will you directly go to Hong Kong?

Thanks in advance.

You might want to talk to a CX pilot or even go to HKG before joining CX. It's gotten so ugly. Pilots, Yes even captains, are retiring early or just quitting because of the mess (read schedules). Perhaps you heard of the 2000$ (257$ USD) the pilots just got for profit sharing. Go and see what the guys and gals at DAL/SWA and UAL got!

Honestly, it's just not worth it. This is from an inside source.

They even have Canadians leaving back to Canada o fly turboprops. Two Captains have quit to go back the their countries to fly Turboprops. This should tell you something.

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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO (Post 1852861)

I haven't heard anything from CX either, and I sent in the paper work about a month ago also. Have you looked at Air Japan contract? Sounds like a better deal. Try part aviation and crew.

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Originally Posted by Boss Hoggin (Post 1852762)

They're only hiring SOs right now, and 5000 hours is probably overqualified for that position.