So, I don't want to hear from people saying "stay away" or "count your blessings" but I received this e-mail from Emirates today after applying yesterday. What does it mean? I have and ATP and indicated english proficient on the app. When it says "technically proficient and experienced pilots on multi-crew, multi-engine commercial aircraft", does this mean 121? I have quite a bit of time in corporate aircraft but nothing over 25k lbs.


"We are writing in relation to your application to join Emirates as a First Officer. We have now had the opportunity to review your application.

Currently, Emirates' minimum requirements are as follows:

First Officers

- Technically proficient and experienced pilots on multi-crew, multi-engine commercial aircraft.
- ICAO ATPL (not frozen)
- ICAO English level 4 or above.
- Preference will be given to applicants with international commercial airline experience


Please continue to update your application at our website Pilots to ensure that your professional experience (including flying hours, aircraft types and dates flown) is correctly reflected.

Thank you for your interest in Emirates.
Yours sincerely,

Pilot Recruitment"

I have friends with more than 3000 TT in CRJ900 (over 36tons) not getting an invite. What is going on

[QUOTE=gopinjr;1968002]So, I don't want to hear from people saying "stay away" or "count your blessings" but I received this e-mail from Emirates today after applying yesterday. What does it mean? I have and ATP and indicated english proficient on the app. When it says "technically proficient and experienced pilots on multi-crew, multi-engine commercial aircraft", does this mean 121? I have quite a bit of time in corporate aircraft but nothing over 25k lbs.

Gopinjr

1. It's your technical knowledge: Aircraft Sys, SOP, Performanace, etc.

2. Non Single Pilot flying

3. No worries I have met a few folks that have corporate flying granted they had prior 121 and current M.E. flying when they joined.

4. They stack your experience based on the pool or banks of applicants they have. With the recent downgrade of minimums and once things get sorted, you guys should started getting contacted soon.

Sasuke

And I know people who pencil whipped most of their 700 times to meet the requirements and are captains today and by the way failed check rides and type rating events ,,,,,

I have had my stuff into for two months still nothing. Anyone know what the key to getting a call is?

Slaveaway….

Your name here will be your lifestyle at EK. You'll be a perfect fit!

Have you ever asked yourself why there is an average of 1 pilot per day resigning currently???

Best of luck to you, though! Enjoy your 96 hours a month!

Kap

If that were the case you'd know that if you lose 10% of something per month then you can never get to zero, not lose the entire roster. :rolleyes:



Unless you want to be a second/third class citizen in a miserably hot and racist part of the world... Look elsewhere.

They may not be that keen on hiring US pilots right now. Statistically speaking, you will leave after three years of abuse.

You can debate the attrition percentages. Fact of the matter is that they are short of pilots.

People are resigning and the recruitment numbers are keeping things even at best. Hence the reduction in hiring minimums to broaden their prospective "pool" of pilots.

Even if you have attractive experience and flight time numbers, I believe their intention is to hire people less likely to leave. At least for the foreseeable future.

If you really are keen on EK, I wish you the best of luck. Beware, it is not the Utopia. Far from it. So if it does not come to fruition ...better things are in wait for you.

Just some more fodder for y'all….

Just read an FO got 110 hours for his October bid. This includes bunk time which at EK is not counted towards your yearly max. But you are paid for.

110 hours…. Really that's what awaits you as an FO at EK as they are that short!!

K

Meanwhile back in the U.S. guys at the majors are crediting 150-200 hours plus at the majors, and NOT flying 110 hours.

The way EKs pay works, flying overtime is criminally disadvantageous,

Wow, really? Hard to believe.
Don't they ask for PRIA paperwork and or verify the times, employment?

Although there is a serious problem with pilots getting creative with their resumes on the international expat market.... The more reputable companies do comprehensive employment background checks and EK is one of those companies so personally I don't put too much credit on this story..., besides the fact that training at EK is not the easiest thing to pass so somebody with deficiencies in their airmanship would have an uphill battle, and without the protection of employment laws and unions, I would suspect that those deficiencies would be apparent during training at this particular airline, their typical failure rate is at around 20% the last I spoke with one of their instructors.

There are many stories about the international expat pilot market that keep being repeated up to the point that people swear by them..., but all they are is stories!

True that some of the guys with Parker pen time get caught out in training, but not all.

Emirates' background checks are not that good to be honest. I've had people ask me about DUIs and such. The answer straight from recruiting at the time was, "just don't put it down, they don't check".

When Varig went out of business a lot of late 30s, early 40s guys showed up as DECs with 3000 PIC in the MD-11. Yeah right!!, Varig was a very senior airline, there is no way those guys had PIC time in the MD-11.


Typhoonpilot

Did you go as a direct entry back at 01 or 02 ?

Sniper - I think it was 2003.

No

The first of that generation of DECs was not hired until mid-2003. All pilots hired in 2001, 2002, and up until about August 2003 were hired as First Officers.

That's back before you guys knew where Dubai was in the world ;)

TP

I knew where Dubai was when they had camels !! Born and raised not too far from it

Now you ?
I doubt it since Usair was only flying in the NE and you are not ex military

Stop insulting people with your knowledge, we just asked you a simple questions dude

Sniper66,

TP is not insulting you or anyone that's why he made sure he put a "winky smiley face". I'm not sure if you saw that. It's sarcasm.



Sasuke.

I recently interviewed with Emirates Airlines and I was wondering how long does it take for them to contact your references? I have read that it can take anywhere from one week to six weeks but most of the posts were from few years back. So if someone who has recently been offered the job can tell me exactly how long they waited, I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Approximately within 10 business days. Make sure your referrences are credible and their letters constructively positive.

Either anyone that gets creative with a pen gets through or your resume has to be credible.....????? Make up your minds people! :rolleyes:

It's been six weeks since I interviewed and last week I sent a email to find out what is going on, they replied back saying that my application is still in the approval stages. I have no idea what does that mean. Just waiting and hoping to hear something soon.

Any one has an update on minimums!! Jet time!!


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Was watching Southern Justice on the National Geographic Channel one afternoon and saw what seemed like a minute long Emirates commercial featuring a woman pilot from the USA. Seemed pretty glamorous from 'their' perspective. After watching it again they had her sitting in the left seat in a few snippets but she only has three strips. She be hot though ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpUJR129m_s

That was strange. How many times did she say "girly girl"?

It had a really scientology vibe to it.

Emirates offer careers in Aviation IT across the travel, transportation or leisure industry and are looking for talented professional. They are currently seeking highly motivated, experienced IT professionals for career opportunities across a wide spectrum of roles.

And according to mutual friend she has her apps in at AMR, DAL, FDX and UAL. Glamourous indeed...

It is not of our business who she has applications with....., that is PRIVATE information that shouldn't be published here without her consent

If that keeps up EK won't use any more U.S. pilots in their advertising.

That was glamorous shot of her calling for LAV!
When you put your life in the public it becomes very hard to stay private.

Nonsense......! Just because she did a commertial...., doesn't gives us the right to publish details about her professional nor personal life..!

Notwithstanding that it is against this site policy as well.

I kindly ask that the moderators remove the information

Why not? She seems more than willing to publish them herself. But hey, a widebody Captain at age 33. I give her full credit for a highly unusual accomplishment being achieved via a highly unusual avenue. Some would choose to be humble about it, others..... not so much.

The female pilot working for Emirates

They do it to themselves. Treating their western expat pilots like 3rd world guest workers isn't going to get them employee longevity.

I really like Dubai and used to want to work for Emirates before I talked to a couple of their 777 captains at the pool at the Westin Beach resort. They literally had to look over their shoulder every time they answered a question about QOL, work, benefits etc. as even expressing their opinion about the company (that was very reserved) could have gotten them fired. They said they were writing LORs for all their co-workers at the Legacies they were furloughed from and recommended to stick with US carriers with employee protections.

So got the invite for an interview w Emirates next month. I have looked around on the boards and can't find too many recent or definitive answers on how to prep for the interview. Is there any go-to interview prep (aero-crew, cage, etc...) that guys/gals go to for Emirates? I just got the outline from them and it sounds Intense!!!

Skitz, go to pprune.org

Ha thanks Spin,

LOTS of good info there for sure!

************* also has emirates info...

Skitz....

As a former EK guy, I really wonder if you realise what you're about to get yourself into. Have you really done your homework on what its' like there?

It looks great from the outside... brilliant marketing dept for this. But you are akin to slave labor once you've resigned from your current employer and are stuck there (golden handcuffs we say).

Rosters are absolutely atrocious with most... seriously... MOST guys flying 98 hours a month. Might not sound that bad but when you combine that amount of flying with the non-circadium rhythmic of those 98 hours, it wreaks havoc on your body.... young or old.

42 days of vacation a year? Nope. Again brilliant marketing but by law, they only have to give 30 and with so many guys resigning and not the quality of guys coming in to replace them, the ones who stay at EK have to pick up the slack and fly upward of 100 plus hours in some cases. you'll only get 30 days per year... and worse, it can be and at times will be given in spurts of 4-5 days at a time. No credit give for those vacation days either.

You need to be really desperate from your current job to join EK. I know it looks so good from the outside, but try to find someone on the inside and discover what it's like when you scratch the surface.

It's simply a punitive culture that gets worse as more guys leave making those who stay have to fly those 100 hours I'm talking about month, after month, after month, 4 days vacation, month after month after month etc....

I hope you the picture.

Kap
(Escapee)

I absolutely agree with this, these middle eastern and asian carriers are doing what US regionals were doing to people pre colgan era and they dont have to deal with unions.... watch out - PFT and 3rd world pilots are common, they just put all the responsibility on the captains and the rest of the pilots are just a body to fill a seat in the eyes of the upper bean counters.

Try not to paint with a broad brush.......!

I won't speak about the ME but Asia is pretty big and it contains many countries and many companies...:rolleyes:

At my gig, we adopted the new rest rules over a year before it was adopted in the USA. We adopted those rules regardless of you flying cargo or passengers (not even done in the US) our ULH rules are better than what the majors in the US are using at the moment.

I have many friends flying ULH in China at the moment and their work rules are actually pretty good...!

There is indeed a great need for pilots out here because of the growth but training is very comprehensive...., it takes years for one of these cadets to join the line, I don't agree with mixing the standards in India or Indonesia with the standards in China or Japan just because they are in Asia.

Third world pilots???? The majority of pilots flying the expat market in Asia today are from Oceania, The EU and the USA....????

What on earth are you talking about?