Emirates vacancies
 

Would you be interested in working for one of the fastest growing and most profitable airlines in the world? Emirates are looking to recruit 1000 talented pilots across the next 20 months due to their unrivalled growth. They have 270 aircraft on order to run alongside their existing 230 fleet and can provide fantastic job security and an exciting and rewarding career.

Working for Emirates you can expect:
· A supportive employer with a holistic benefits package focusing on the aspects that are most important to you
· To be part of a global network
· Security and attractive career progression
· To fly a young technically advanced fleet which is entirely wide-bodied
· A quality lifestyle in Dubai with access to high standards of education, leisure and sports - ideal for both families and singles

If you're interested in finding out more visit emirates.com/pilots.

If you have to come on this forum to recruit pilots you must be really hurting. Emirates looked great when the U.S. Carriers were not hiring. Not the case now. Good luck!

USA basing, Direct Entry Captains...

Then, I might consider...

There are many reasons why Emirates is sooooooo desperate for pilots - many of whom are jumping like rats from a ship. Anyone considering EK should do extensive, thorough research and look at the other aviation discussion boards as well.

I do agree, if EK offered US basing that would only help their own efforts. Highly doubt that will happen though...

Agreed, all they have to do is open a JFK base for US crews and that 1000 would be filled instantly. Of course that would mean admitting that no one chooses to live in Dubai, just forced to by other circumstances.

If there was a US base, Emirates would have to follow US labor laws to US based crews right? Like the right to Unionize, etc?

EK is a fu&*#ing joke. Ive got 12 years 121, thousands of TPIC, 3 internal recs. Their internal screening department is a joke. I continually get emails stating that I dont meet the minimum 2000 hours multi-crew time. And yes, my app indeed states 5K+ multi crew time....I truly believe half of their problem is their own idiocracy in vetting online apps. My buds say I may be better off....

I must agree with that, 1000 plus jet above 100k tow and 4000 total time and their department says i lack total time and efis time.... Good luck poaching from every a320 operator.

No minimum hours any more...They lowered their mins...very desperate...losing upwards of 10% per month was posted by several pilots...

No minimum hours could get scary.

Cant believe a place that starts at $98k tax free with all housing, education paid and free healthcare cant keep or find new pilots!

At the end of the day it might be the shiny jet and the pay that attracts people to jobs but it is the overall satisfaction with your work environment and the company culture that keeps them there...., the new office becomes just the office after a month or so:rolleyes:

Emirates will never, ever open up a US base.

(or anywhere else for that matter)

Do not come here. It is the hardest flying you will ever do, the longest hours, the most time zones.

The fact that EK is reducing the minimums...well, those candidates still need to pass the recruitment process, which is difficult.

and then suffer through the training dept.

HAhaha now that's funny!

I thought all Ex MAG pilots were shouting that's the best job and a lot of cash ? What happen ?

Oh I could say a lot of things happened, Sniper. They got wise, I guess.

If you don't go crazy spending here in Dubai it still pays as well if not better than mainline. But you fly a lot. A LOT.

the rosters are nothing like what they once were. And thats where the majority of the dissatisfaction is

How's the life for A380 first officer? Can someone share some info please?


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I am in the process of submitting my application on the Emirates Careers Page for First Officer position. However, the application wont let me move forward after the Work Experience page as I entered all my work experience and I get the error message quote " NO ITEMS CORRESPOND TO THE CRITERIA, PLEASE SELECT OTHER CRITERIA" I have completed everything accurately till now so I am lost as what am I doing wrong. Any help would be appreciated.

The two people I know on the A380 at EK are both looking to exit.

So what are the new hiring mins for an FO? I've looked everywhere on their website I couldn't find anything. All you need is English level 4 and ATPL. Is that it? Wish they were more specific. I don't mind staying in Dubai, it's a great city. Just need to know more details about their requirements.

Unwritten mins 4000 - 5000 total 2000 EFIS

My buddy WANTED to work for Emirates and during the interview they flat out said, "You are Jewish so we are not going to hire you". He's not Jewish at all! Anyways, just a legally racist organization, government subsidized, upgrade is if they like you they upgrade you, three year contract(at least it was I believe) and Dubai is not the Paradise it seems. Lots of things to remind you of the third world, *****s everywhere wanting your hard earned money but there are nice people there. Oh, the national pastime is shopping at the mall. What the heck else do you do when it's 160 degrees out! (just kidding). Really peeved me what they said to my friend. On a side note, i do like flying as a passenger on Emirates. They hire hot, young flight attendants and the service is very good.

I spent years living in Bahrain and Dubai.. I would never go back there again...

Agreed, although for me it would be EU bases. Commuting options would be acceptable too. But definitely not going as an FO and not moving my family to the middle east.

I've always flown either Emirates, Qatar, or Etihad. They always have great service for the px but seems like not a great place to work

I can guarantee you El Al does not have Muslim pilots. It cuts both ways.

If we were losing 10% a month that would mean all our current pilots would be gone in 10 months. I think you mean a 10% rate for the year.

Actually that's not quite how the math works. Losing 10% does not linearly go to 0 in 10 months. Say you have 100 pilots. Losing 10% a month means down to 90 in one month. Losing 10% again means down to 81. 10% again means down to ~73. Then 10% again 65.61, and so it goes 59.05, 53.14, 47.83, 43.05, 38.74, and 34.87.

So if you started with 100 pilots and lost 10% every month then by month 10 you'd have ~35 pilots left.

Thank you for that, I did take math in high school and college(and actually passed). I was just making a point that we weren't losing 10% of our pilots each month.

Are the requirements on EK's website actually correct?
ICAO ATPL
English Level 4

I just applied with:
2300 hrs TT
1300 hrs Jet (small citation jets)
ICAO ATPL
English Level 6

Surely i meet these requirements, and if so, why did i get the rejection email saying they require

A minimum of 4000 hours total flying time including 2000 hrs on multi-crew, multi-engine jet aircraft.
- OR -
2500 hrs on modern EFIS multi-crew, multi-engine jet aircraft with a MTOW of greater than 30T

I said the same thing.

It's not a net loss...there are new hires every month.

The guys on pprune said the official loss rate is 4% a month, and that's because anyone over 50 is NOT officially leaving...they are retired and don't countin the official loss rate. Pprune guys says the actual loss rate is 11-14% a month. I don't know how many new joiners per month, so I don't know the net loss per month.

Sorry Cliff but I actually work at EK and can actually look at our seniority list. We are not losing anywhere close to 4% a month. That would be 140 pilots leaving each month. 11% a month equals 385 pilots leaving each month. But I guess if its on PPrune it must be true.

Then look a little harder. There are ghost pilots on the list still that quit over 6 months ago. The seniority list is worthless.
I have heard from a reliable source that is almost touching 5% at one point in recent months.

Wouldn't the proof in the pudding be to post the initials, DOH's, seniority number, and last month flown by the 'ghost' pilots?

If it's dozens, or hundreds, of 'ghost' pilots it should be pretty easy to get supporting data.

Pilotguy, with all due respect this isnt Rocket Science. If 5% of the pilots were leaving MONTHLY, that would be roughly 190 pilots gone each month. About 2300 pilots a YEAR. Do you really believe that many are leaving? I can see a 5 or 10% YEARLY rate however.

Clearly the attrition rate cannot be a consistent 5-10% each month. That is simply not sustainable and Emirates would be cancelling several flights per day/week/month if attrition were that high each month.

The real proof of their pilot situation is just like at other airlines around the world. When they are truly hurting for pilots they initially require more block hours from pilots on staff and increase recruitment activities. If that is insufficient they will then reduce required qualifications. Lastly they will begin to improve pay/benefits and working conditions. What has Emirates been doing in this list? From what I can read here and in other places is that they are requiring more block hours from pilots (and reducing or eliminating vacations) and they are stepping up recruitment activities. So clearly they are feeling the pinch at some level. They may have even begun to reduce required qualifications. But clearly they are not at the point where they are desperate enough to improve pay/benefits and working conditions.

Emirates does have a great product for its passengers and has clearly become a global force in air transportation. But for most of us Dubai is a LONG way from home and if you are a westerner, it is surrounded by a lot of not so friendly places. When those factors are combined with the 800 pound gorilla located northeast east of Dubai, China, that is offering ungodly amounts of money, commuting contracts and the ability to remain in the left seat, or in some cases a very quick upgrade for experienced FOs, Emirates has lost a lot of its lustre. In all honesty I hate China. But I make significantly more than I would at Emirates, and I have a commuting contract that allows me to still maintain my residence in the country of my choice, and I get six months vacation annually. In many ways I would be attracted to Emirates, but until they can come close to what I currently have, they are out of luck.

Most pilots have been doing full blocks for awhile now. 777 seems to be gaining the undesirable flights while the 380 takes the better ones. 330 mostly crap flights but all 330/340 retired in the next 18 months . Of course there will be those that say the 330 wil never leave. 330 pilots rumoured to being transferred to 380 in October after being told next year. The overall pilot numbers has not increased fir some time. Indicating @ 10% attrition over the past 12/18 months but don't quote me on that. Next year brings a lot of new aircraft but don't know about retirements. Depending on what you read 30 to 50 fleet increase over the next 9 years 250 up to 300. Even some of the early 380 are planned to be retired by then. The orders sound impressive but are mainly replacements.

I read recently that Emirates cannot grow more than 260-300 planes until the new airport at Al-Maktoum opens fully. Then i heard it can grow to 450+. That is if Airbus keeps making the A380 and if Emirates will keep and get more pilots.

how about taxes??
 

Since the IRS came up with this FATCA (foreign account tax compliant act) in March 2010 and FBAR (foreign bank account report) this is specifically for US nationals working abroad, now they are on hunt for those that have not properly filed and/or disclose bank accounts correctly. There is a credit of $99300 per year tax free then after is taxed at......I believe 30% up to 39.5 % if u cross 250k a year (i think)
Dubai has no double tax agreement with US so u pay uncle sam in full.
I hear Dubai is a tax free country but there are some services that are taxed at 10% and the latest is they are exploring ways to tax more.....so be careful when u accept work overseas.....