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Shallowhaze 01-28-2007 07:16 PM

India anybody?
 
I have been offered to fly a Captain position on the CRJ, based in India and am still trying to decide what to do.

It is a 3 year contract paying around $9000 a month tax free with housing included.

My wife is not really supportive about this. I am looking for some inputs before I pull the trigger.:confused:

Typhoonpilot 01-28-2007 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Shallowhaze (Post 109311)
I have been offered to fly a Captain position on the CRJ, based in India and am still trying to decide what to do.

It is a 3 year contract paying around $9000 a month tax free with housing included.

My wife is not really supportive about this. I am looking for some inputs before I pull the trigger.:confused:

There is a member here who is/was flying in India (Randal). Maybe he'll come along and answer some questions for you. You may also try to PM him.

I'll tell you that if your wife is not supportive that it probably isn't a good idea to take the job. If you do it will create a large strain on your marriage and you'll probably end up getting divorced or having to leave the job early.

I've been overseas for quite some time in a few different countries on various short and long term contracts. I've seen it all happen before. Sometimes the wife is okay with it initially, but then misses home and forces her husband to get a job back home. In the one instance that I personally witnessed where a guy came without the support of his wife he was miserable. Eventually he left, as it was either that or divorce.

Commuting to India would be out of the question as it's just too far. So don't even think about that option.


Typhoonpilot

UPTme 01-28-2007 11:57 PM

Do foreign carriers have any type of jumpseat agreements/CASS sort of thing like our domestic carriers do?

Typhoonpilot 01-29-2007 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by UPTme (Post 109384)
Do foreign carriers have any type of jumpseat agreements/CASS sort of thing like our domestic carriers do?


For the most part, no.

TP

kalyx522 01-29-2007 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by Shallowhaze (Post 109311)
I have been offered to fly a Captain position on the CRJ, based in India and am still trying to decide what to do.

It is a 3 year contract paying around $9000 a month tax free with housing included.

My wife is not really supportive about this. I am looking for some inputs before I pull the trigger.:confused:

Uhm, I have no inputs to give you as I am young and inexperienced myself (sorry), but I WOULD like to know what happens of your decision.
I was actually browsing some stuff yesterday and one Indian carrier stood out... but my main concerns would be things like safety, quality of training, quality of life in a completely foreign country very far from home.
Please let us know what how this develops...

LAfrequentflyer 01-29-2007 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Shallowhaze (Post 109311)
I have been offered to fly a Captain position on the CRJ, based in India and am still trying to decide what to do.

It is a 3 year contract paying around $9000 a month tax free with housing included.

My wife is not really supportive about this. I am looking for some inputs before I pull the trigger.:confused:

What times / qualifications do you have?

Thanks,
LAFF

MTBrulz 01-29-2007 07:00 AM

I have a good friend there...says he's loving it but it all depends on your base. Chennai and Bangalor are the two best. Good luck

nwa757 01-29-2007 07:30 AM

I just received info about a FO position... pays $4k a month, housing, food, driver included. Still, have concerns about safety, language barrier, etc.

Schedule is 6 weeks on / 2 off or 3 weeks on / 1 off. The 6/2 could allow you to fly back to the US to visit your family I suppose.

Shallowhaze 01-29-2007 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 109427)
What times / qualifications do you have?

Thanks,
LAFF

I guess the average, 8000 TT, 4500 (121)PIC, 1800 CRJ.

There is a one month off a year, so that part is not bad. The downside is another 3 years on the CRJ. Money is good in Asia, as long as Mesa doesn't f##k it all up.

Shallowhaze 01-29-2007 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 109516)
Still, have concerns about safety, language barrier, etc.

What safety?... On my brief international experience, I can tell you there is no place like U.S... You do get a ride to the airport though...:D

cruiseclimb 01-29-2007 11:11 AM

To answer many of your questions, go to the the Asia section on Pprune.org.. http://www.pprune.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45

Lots of info here.. Basically $9k in India is like $20k here as far as cost of living. Takes a special breed to handle India.. can really wear on you.

Good luck

Typhoonpilot 01-29-2007 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Shallowhaze (Post 109539)
What safety?... On my brief international experience, I can tell you there is no place like U.S... You do get a ride to the airport though...:D

Hate to break it to you this way, but the last two fatal accidents on the CRJ were in the USA and were both pilot error.

When flying modern western built transport category jets safety is not going to be a major issue unless they are not serviced and maintained properly. I can tell you that in all of my international experience most foreign airlines do a far better job of keeping the aircraft MEL free than U.S. carriers.


TP

dansia 01-29-2007 06:15 PM

Wondering what company you got the offer from. Sounds like something I would like to do someday, at least a few more years to go though. Any good information pm please.

Thx

nwa757 01-31-2007 06:38 PM

Looking at flying the CRJ in India... PM me... Looking for any advice.

Thanks so much.

rickair7777 01-31-2007 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Shallowhaze (Post 109539)
What safety?... On my brief international experience, I can tell you there is no place like U.S... You do get a ride to the airport though...:D

Yeah, all BS aside the US really stands out from a 121 safety perspective, Europe is not far behind. But the rest of the world...whole different ball of wax, airline flying is probably statistically hazardous to the crews in any third-world country.

Puppyz 02-01-2007 06:34 AM

kinda sad though how third world India pays way better then first world America

dundem 02-01-2007 07:57 AM

Asia, Africa and the Middle East all pay better than the US.

kalyx522 02-01-2007 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 111042)
Yeah, all BS aside the US really stands out from a 121 safety perspective, Europe is not far behind. But the rest of the world...whole different ball of wax, airline flying is probably statistically hazardous to the crews in any third-world country.

Eh, I wouldn't say "rest of the world".. I honestly have no idea about countries like India, but there are numerous other Asian companies that have been doing well. (Or at the very least, made big improvements from their baby days.)

flybywire44 02-06-2007 09:48 PM

Please keep us informed of your decision! Good luck!

Neosporin 02-07-2007 05:32 AM

Shallowhaze,

what is the name of the company? thanks.

Shallowhaze 02-07-2007 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 114250)
Shallowhaze,

what is the name of the company? thanks.


Originally Posted by dansia (Post 109955)
Wondering what company you got the offer from. Sounds like something I would like to do someday, at least a few more years to go though. Any good information pm please.

Thx

Dansia, Neosporin:

If you guys want to pm me with your email, I can forward all the information, the one place needed about 10 Captains, the sooner the better.

mike734 02-07-2007 04:51 PM

First off the income will not be tax free. The US has a foreign earned income exclusion. If you stay out of the USA for a certain time, (used to be 330 of 360 days) it is about $80,000. You will have to pay tax on the rest unless your employer is going to pay it for you. (very unlikely). Tax implications are serious. You must file for the exclusion or lose it. Review expatriate tax law carefully before you make the decision. I did it for 2 years in Europe as an illegal alien and did so without paying local or US tax. My situation was dicey however. I would proceed with caution.

Secondly, I remember looking a chart of diseases. It was color coded to show regions of the world where certain diseases are a problem. The USA only had a few colors. India, however, had every color in the rainbow. Essentially, you are going to be exposed to everything over there. I've heard some guys say you will get very sick eventually. You better check it to the health services and insurance available.

Third thing. As an expat pilot you are only there because they need you. They don't really want you there. The second they don't need you is your last day. It doesn't matter what your "contract" says. You will not be able to enforce it. If you can live with that....Also be careful not to be a "scab." Labor over there (in Europe at least) can strike on a moments notice. If you fly during a strike the locals will not appreciate it. If you don't, your employer will not. This puts you in a difficult position.

nwa757 02-28-2007 02:57 AM

Expect to see a lot of RJ orders in India with these new tax breaks. Even more expat CRJ/E-Jet crews will be needed.
http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2007/feb/28bud24.htm

windjet 03-19-2007 05:05 PM

you get a ride to the airport and get treated with respect unlike in the US where your just a bus driver.

atpcliff 04-06-2007 03:37 PM

Hi!

My bud is looking for an ERJ-145 job (50 seat ERJ). Anyone have any info???

Thanx!

cliff
YIP

KDUA 04-06-2007 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 145051)
Hi!

My bud is looking for an ERJ-145 job (50 seat ERJ). Anyone have any info???

Thanx!

cliff
YIP

If you are looking for overseas jobs, then I have to tell you that this is not a very good website for info. Why not try www.pprune.org a lot of good info about jobs in India.
I know paramount airways are hiring on Emb in India. These jobs goes through agencies like rishworth, and direct personal.

good luck :D

JOEL 10-08-2008 07:32 AM

I HAVE BEEN CALLED TO CHENNAI TO OPERATE ERJ 170/190 AS A PIC.
IT IS A NEW AIRLINE COMMENCING OPERATION FROM MARCH.THEY ARE PAYING ME $9000
IT IS A VERY REASSURING COMMENT ABOUT CHENNAI BEING A GOOD PLACE. ANYMORE COMMENT PLEASE PM ME AT [email protected] .

JOEL 10-08-2008 07:37 AM

Any Of You Guys Type-rated Erj 170/190 As Pic Want Any Info About This Job Of Mine, You Can Contact Me. I Would Love To Be Acquainted With A Few Of You Before I Land At A Foreign Place.

Jughead 10-10-2008 03:07 AM

What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach

MTOP 10-12-2008 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Puppyz (Post 111147)
kinda sad though how third world India pays way better then first world America

It's only because they have no pilots, and therefore nobody to screw up the job economically, the way they've done in the US. Wait five years, and if enough U.S. pilots come over to India and sell out the experienced expats and the few indigenous Indian pilots, the job will pay as little in India as it now does in the U.S.

Thedude 10-12-2008 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 114545)
First off the income will not be tax free. The US has a foreign earned income exclusion. If you stay out of the USA for a certain time, (used to be 330 of 360 days) it is about $80,000.

There is also the residence presense test. Which basically says that if you reside in a foreign country (have a residence visa, and apartment and such) there is not a min number of days you have to stay outside the US.


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 114545)
You will have to pay tax on the rest unless your employer is going to pay it for you. (very unlikely).

A lot of employers in China seem to be paying the tax for you.

DYNASTY HVY 10-12-2008 03:41 PM

raining on the parade.
 

Originally Posted by MTOP (Post 477725)
It's only because they have no pilots, and therefore nobody to screw up the job economically, the way they've done in the US. Wait five years, and if enough U.S. pilots come over to India and sell out the experienced expats and the few indigenous Indian pilots, the job will pay as little in India as it now does in the U.S.

If the economy over in India tanks y,all can forget about working the old curry express because they,ll start tossing expats under the bus real fast like once they get their folks trained.:eek:

JOEL 10-28-2008 03:37 AM

I HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO FLY ERJ-170 IN INDIA.SALARY IS $9500 INCLUSIVE OF ACCOMODATION .TAX TO BE BORNE BY THE COMPANY.

ANYONE IN THE SAME BOAT????

PM ME AT [email protected]

JOEL 10-28-2008 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Puppyz (Post 111147)
kinda sad though how third world India pays way better then first world America

COZ EVERYTHING THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD SWEETHEART

frozenboxhauler 10-28-2008 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by JOEL (Post 487081)
COZ EVERYTHING THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD SWEETHEART

SWEETHEART, you're right. It could be the vindaloo.
fbh

Roll Inverted and Pull 10-28-2008 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by JOEL (Post 487078)
I HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO FLY ERJ-170 IN INDIA.SALARY IS $9500 INCLUSIVE OF ACCOMODATION .TAX TO BE BORNE BY THE COMPANY.

ANYONE IN THE SAME BOAT????

PM ME AT [email protected]

Joel..it was $9000 on the previous page..get your story straight.

de727ups 10-28-2008 06:05 PM

Spam. Thread closed.


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