NAS, NAI and NLH all operate under the same banner. You book tickets on one site, the planes are all painted the same, the crew uniforms are all the same. Just different operating certificates. So the question still remains, which certificate and which equipment is being used for the operations between the European territories in the Caribbean and the United States?
pattupilot
06-28-2016 09:06 AM
They need to be stopped with the way the operate. I hope they dont ruin the American market like they did in Europe.
Denti
06-28-2016 10:37 PM
They need to be stopped with the way the operate. I hope they dont ruin the American market like they did in Europe.
I am really not a friend of Norwegian, but they certainly didn't ruin the european market. That was done way before them. The biggest one is probably Ryanair, but lots of small airlines have used dodgy employment practices including pay to fly before Norwegian had any influence on the market.
However, im all for stopping their NAI expansion, longhaul flights with a flag of convenience setup is not something i want in the marketplace.
sonicguy
07-02-2016 03:55 AM
Where are the pilots based then? in FLL?
viking767
07-02-2016 09:31 AM
European 737 operation. Crews are TDY for the season based at FDF or PDP.
Csy Mon
07-02-2016 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by NEDude
(Post 2151851)
NAS, NAI and NLH all operate under the same banner. You book tickets on one site, the planes are all painted the same, the crew uniforms are all the same. Just different operating certificates. So the question still remains, which certificate and which equipment is being used for the operations between the European territories in the Caribbean and the United States?
The problem started when the 737 pilots working for Norwgian Air forgot to include a scope clause in the their contract.
So the boss order a fleet of B-787s for long-haul and hire a bunch of contractors to fly them. Same owner, same paint job, same everything but with the liberal EU rules he started a "new" company in Ireland to bypass the Norwegian labor laws, then cranks up a base in Bangkok getting cheap cabin crews from that part of the world, a London base for ex-pat pilots getting tired of the Middel East and China paying them just about enough to get qualified applicants, but not a shekel more.
Then using free flight agreements they start flying to the US: Orlando, Fort Lauderdale, New York, San Fran, etc., while applying for permanent rights and routes using a temporary approval.
The above in a nut-shell but so far everything is legal, no scabbing, no violations, just setting the bar lower and lower.
With the present and future pilot shortage they will probably have to up the ante a bit, but for now it is working. :eek:
. Viking767
That you BA?
The Dominican
07-03-2016 03:45 AM
Funny how nobody has a problem with Ethiopian flying to the US with a lower salary than this company..., or how Aeromexico or LATAM flying for decades now with literally half what this company captains make.....! We need to concentrate in raising T&C's for aviators around the world and not follow the politics of blame against one pilot group...., especially one that is not the lowest paid around the world..., by far!
