Gama vs. NetJets
10-10-2018, 10:05 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
It’s EXTREMELY cramped for anybody taller than about 6 feet, especially the Netjets version which added a cabinet behind the pilot seats robbing the crew of even more room. I’ve sat in the Embraer factory 300 demonstrator without the cabinet and it is easily the smallest cockpit I’ve ever been in, including the Lear 24. No chance of full control authority for somebody larger than Kenny Baker (the actor that played R2D2).
That is the primary bone of contention but there are also concerns among some pilots because the airplane was certified under Part 23. There are certain “quirks” not seen in the rest of the fleets.
That is the primary bone of contention but there are also concerns among some pilots because the airplane was certified under Part 23. There are certain “quirks” not seen in the rest of the fleets.
Sounds like your head alone would make a flight of any duration difficult.
Much less your ego.
10-10-2018, 10:51 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by Retractable
350 service via a GPU.
High class.
I’ve never seen a NetJets airplane “saving money” like that.
High class.
I’ve never seen a NetJets airplane “saving money” like that.
Don’t be snooty. They probably showed early and decided on a GPU instead of all that noise blaring and gas wasting. Or...taking advantage of our fuel savings. Or...APU is MEL’d.
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10-10-2018, 10:59 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by Retractable
Sounds like your head alone would make a flight of any duration difficult.
Much less your ego.
Much less your ego.
Was there anything inaccurate about my statement?
No. The previous poster asked why people might dislike the airplane. It’s cramped and certified under Part 23. Those are FACTS.
10-10-2018, 11:52 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
That’s rich coming from you, John.
Was there anything inaccurate about my statement?
No. The previous poster asked why people might dislike the airplane. It’s cramped and certified under Part 23. Those are FACTS.
Was there anything inaccurate about my statement?
No. The previous poster asked why people might dislike the airplane. It’s cramped and certified under Part 23. Those are FACTS.
Ok “Paul”... or “Mike”... or “Buddy”.
10-10-2018, 04:23 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by Guard
Do they give you a "dream sheet" during indoctrination?
10-10-2018, 07:49 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by flyskisail
See that's the thing, it's not just about the money to me. I totally get that to some people it is. No slight against them or that at all.
For me, I prefer living well on the road, going home feeling refreshed and enjoy working with every single person I fly or interact with at the company. I enjoy the feeling of knowing the company is looking out for me and that they aren't just in it to make the biggest buck. (I know I will get flamed for this, "You'll get screwed", "you're an idiot", etc. etc. I've heard it all and don't care.)
I laugh when certain operators wont even talk to me. Literally I've had guys grunt at me after I say good morning.
For me, I prefer living well on the road, going home feeling refreshed and enjoy working with every single person I fly or interact with at the company. I enjoy the feeling of knowing the company is looking out for me and that they aren't just in it to make the biggest buck. (I know I will get flamed for this, "You'll get screwed", "you're an idiot", etc. etc. I've heard it all and don't care.)
I laugh when certain operators wont even talk to me. Literally I've had guys grunt at me after I say good morning.
10-15-2018, 10:06 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by Retractable
350 service via a GPU.
High class.
I’ve never seen a NetJets airplane “saving money” like that.
High class.
I’ve never seen a NetJets airplane “saving money” like that.
The NetJets money savings comes from running crews into the ground with long duty days. That XO crew flew a leg and probably landed and went to the hotel. That NJA crew has another 3 legs and a min rest overnight to look forward to.
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