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Originally Posted by 172guy
(Post 3661434)
As someone who is thinking about coming to Net Jets, who would you recommend in the 135 world instead? I'm sure you network with more people than I do and would appreciate a heads up.
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Originally Posted by Tiggerpilot
(Post 3661234)
Instead of saying “Come to NJ, you’ll get paid a lot.”, or “Come to NJ, you’ll enjoy a great a great QOL.”… we have pilots complimenting our ‘
’iron clad” fatigue policy. Yes, you too can come to NJ where you can get paid 60% of Jet Blue (a low cost carrier) and use our iron clad fatigue policy. to NJ unless you get some kind of thrill being paid 1/3 of your worth with zero schedule or QOL control, all the while using our iron clad fatigue policy like chewing gum.” At the same time, it’s disingenuous to complain of constantly being fatigued here. Just send a fatigue GM and let SO figure out the details. Don’t fly tired and certainly don’t go home tired. If you’re chasing FDPP at the expense of your own fatigue, that’s a personal problem. |
Originally Posted by 172guy
(Post 3661434)
As someone who is thinking about coming to Net Jets, who would you recommend in the 135 world instead? I'm sure you network with more people than I do and would appreciate a heads up.
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Originally Posted by Drifter123
(Post 3658801)
Your argument would be more credible if you resigned and took your own advice.
I did 91k for 8 years and really liked it, but CS burned, so I was forced to look around. Got a 121 LCC job, more secure, better pay, more boring. I am advising all the new guys to keep their eyes open and consider trying a legacy instead of staying at the LCC. Do you really think I should lead by example before I can tell the new guys to keep their eyes open? I am at 16%, with 9 years to go. Senior line holding captain. If I go to a legacy, and if I upgrade, I will be on reserve till I retire, for less pay, and less vacation. If they stay, they will probably have to wait 10 years to just hold a line, because growth has slowed a lot. If they go they will probably hold a line as a NB captain sooner, for way better pay (remember I am on year 11 pay, they aren't), more vacation, better benefits and the option of wide body if they want after 20 years. If he took his own advise, I would probably consider him a fool, and not listen to him. And since you advice him to do so, maybe you are one. |
Originally Posted by Tiggerpilot
(Post 3658790)
It’s a simple message… DON’T COME TO NETJETS.
The simple truth is we get paid less and work harder then anyone our size (number of planes/pilots). Are there worse places to go? Sure! But saying, “NJ sucks less then where I’m working now.” seems like a weak argument, especially considering the options pilots have at this time. So many better options to make more money while flying more and gaining experience. Many of our recent new-hires feel duped, the ole bait and switch, now that they are on property and actually dealing with day-to-day operations and the paychecks that come with it. If you have done your homework and still want to come here, we’d love to have you. But know what you’re getting into please. Right now we are a mess. It's a good job and it will get better. We need improvements, we need compensation increase, some schedules improvement, but it's a good job. Those cry-babies who keep saying it's the worst job in the world are still here.... |
Originally Posted by SonnyTuckson
(Post 3665664)
Why don't you resign? If it's so bad, if you're treated less than a coal miner, if you are constantly forced with guns in the back of your new, to fly fatigued, if all you do all day is clean leftover poop all over the toilet seat, why don't you resign?
It's a good job and it will get better. We need improvements, we need compensation increase, some schedules improvement, but it's a good job. Those cry-babies who keep saying it's the worst job in the world are still here.... It amazes me how little some of our pilots value their own time. |
Originally Posted by FracCracka
(Post 3665976)
If the “cry-babies” all resigned, the only ones left would be those of you content to work 11/2 because it’s not that bad.
It amazes me how little some of our pilots value their own time. |
Originally Posted by SonnyTuckson
(Post 3666391)
Never worked 11/2, never extended ever, will never do, I have other things to do, but I respect each pilot's personal choices. Those that choose to exercise their freedom and chose to work 11/2 do whatever they want, freedom, but that's not my cup of tea. What do you even know how do they value their own time, It's their lives, not yours. Mind your own business, who are you to even judge others. Apparently you're still a NJA pilot, you must be some kind of a loser then, not?
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Originally Posted by FracCracka
(Post 3666685)
I’m one of the crybabies hoping to get you a better contract before they retire me in January.
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United TA. Enough said.
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