NetJets hiring
 

What are the trends? Can someone with 2500TT actually get picked up? Which aircraft are they hiring into and which one would could someone expect to get?

There have many people hired with just over the mins, myself included (2553). I know that the class that started on Mon has 7 G200 spots. There seems to be lots of hiring into the XL/XLS and the Ultra. There should be lots going into the Encore plus and Hawker 4000 when we take delivery. My interview sim partner had never flown jets before and he went to the Soveriegn.

I am going to apply but am thinking about acquiring an interview coach. Have any of you guys utilized this type of service and if so were you happy with it?

Any suggestions for Netjets interviews?

Thanks

How valuable are internal recommendations? I only know a couple people.

I would definately go to NetJets if they get the 100 bases. I guess a lot of people feel that way, though. I'm sure internal recommendations are valuable just like any other place. How is the pilot group at Netjets? From what I've seen it's an older pilot group. Any former 121 guys around that wish they would have stayed with the airlines instead of going to Netjets?

I'd shoot my application over now just not quite there yet. I'd be there tomorrow if they'd let me lol.

I sent them a resume via email 8 weeks ago or more and have yet to receive the application.... I have all the mins and about 500+ hours PIC in an Encore, are they just back logged or what?

I dont know. I just emailed my last night.

Should have had the packet by now,

Quick question...how far out should you apply? I meet all the mins and they sound like a good place to work, but I still have over a year to go in the USAF.

Thanks

GNH

I used to be a 121 guy. Going with the fractionals (specially NJ) was the best profesional move I've made. No desire, at all to go back to 121, none....I plan on retiring from NJ (30 years from now)..

Hey, I used the professionals and I think it made a huge difference. if nothing else it gives you the confidence to relax and be yourself. They are not teaching you how to make up great stories, but how to use your own stories and experiences; as well as how to answer the questions in a logical structured manner. I used Emerald Coast Consulting in Panama City, Florida. The owners name is Aaron Hagan, look them up and ask them is you can schedule the NJA profile. Good luck!

http://www.emeraldcoastinterviewconsulting.com/

On a positive note I did get the Auto Reply saying my resume was received!

Yeah I used Cheryl Cage for my interview prep. She was a a great help. I don't know how much it costs cause the company I was working for payed for it. It taught me a lot about how to interview and if I had to pay for it knowing what I know now I probably would.

Hiring
 

Does anyone know if NJ hires straight into the left seat with experience? CL600 type rating with lots of PIC 121 time? What about starting salary. I heard its negotiable? Are you expected to get to one of the base airports on your own to begin your duty?

Thanks in advance

I read on the other website that NJ is done giring for the year? Any truth to this?

NJ is a union shop - I doubt highly they would agree to street captains - and certainly not to negotiating your own wages.

No street Captains. You start at the bottom - FO on a wide range of fleet types. Structured schedule - either reserve or 7/7. This is very different from any charter or airline operation.

Just wondering the reasons?? Ive been giving NJ a lot of thought seems like a good place. However My dream has always been to fly something big across water! But id be interested in hearing your reasons.

I got my app about 2-3 weeks after emailing my resume....

Yes you must find your own way to your base to begin your tour...no cass or other Jumpseat agreements...

I spoke with someone in recruiting a few weeks ago. He said that he believed they were done hiring for 2007 but are continuing to interview for the Jan. class. He said the process takes about 4-5 months from receipt of resume to class assignment. So it sounds like even if they are done hiring for 07, the process is continuous and will keep moving for the first of the year hires. I'm not with NJ (yet!:cool:).... sent my app in last week. So can anyone from NJ chime in on this?

A very wise man once told me to pick a job based on Pay and Work Rules -- NEVER pick a job based solely upon the type of jets in a company's fleet.

I have friends flying for some real DIRT-BAG operations and getting abused daily just because they wanted to fly something heavy across the pond.

Food for thought...... :rolleyes:

Are a lot of guys going into the X?

I think it varies a lot from class to class. In my indoc class a few weeks ago, I was the only X guy. There were about 8-10 guys going to the G200.

I know there are at least 3 X guys in the Oct indoc class. If I had a choice I would have picked anything but the X, but that's just me.

Can you get hired into the G200 without any Gulfstream time?

Yes, you can get hired in all class 3 and below aircraft.

What don't you like about the X? I know the X crews work hard, but I hear the G200 and Sovereign fleets are getting busier. At least you didn't get a non-APU aircraft like the Ultra or Beechjet.

The company you were working for paid for you to get one-on-one consulting so you could get your next job and leave them??? Not calling you a liar, but you gotta admit it sounds a little odd....

Well I haven't even started aircraft training yet but I was hoping for something with shorter legs but I'm sure the X will be fun to fly. It is true that some of the other fleets are catching up a little bit. And yes I would have chosen the X over the non-APU aircraft.

Well, back to looking over the new proposal.

How does that proposal compare to what you had at Jet blue?

There is no comparison, IMHO.

The pay at JetBlue was not that bad but the thing about the airlines is you get nickel and dimed to death.

First year pay at the Blue was around $47,000 and by year 5 its around $75,000. However at JB medical/dental/vision for a family is around $300 (and the deductibles and max out of pocket are much higher), crashpad $200, gas/tolls driving back and forth to JFK, $200/month. Also, you get to pocket most of your per diem at NJA due to the crew food program.

Then you throw in hotel/airline points, schedule stability (at least on the 7/7), etc. and it's a no brainer for me. NJA also has some great benefits for a reservist such as myself.

I don't want to sound too down on JB as it is a good place to work and I will certainly miss the Airbus on those transcons!

I've been on the X at NJA for about a year now, and I have no complaints. Mind you though, I'm 5'8" and 165 lbs. It is indeed a cramped environment up front, and I can see how it would get pretty uncomfortable for some of the bigger guys. I last time I did legs longer than about 2 hours was in the C-130, so it took a little getting used to.

As far as the leg lengths, there are some coast-to-coast legs, but I tend to find that doing a long leg or two during the day is less fatiguing than having to do six short hops in a day. I've done both in the X, and it seems that way to me. Maybe that's my personal physiology. And if you're going to have to go coast-to-coast, at least you'll get there faster than anyone else out there. Do we work hard on the X? Yeah, most of the time. If I had to choose between flying all day and sitting around an FBO all day, I'd choose the flying every time.

As far as other comfort items go, the height of the cabin is also much nicer than some of our smaller jets. A guy my height doesn't have to bend over at all. The APU is huge for me as well. Cooler in the summer, warmer in the winter and no begging for a GPU at every stop.

Also, on the plus side, blowing by everybody in the sky besides the military fighter guys never gets old. Often, you have to reduce power at cruise altitude to keep from exceeding the max of 0.92 mach. The altitudes we cruise at also tend to reduce much of the hassle associated with traffic and weather avoidance.

The X was my first choice and I'm still glad I got it. Only the Falcon 2000, with it's roomier cockpit and FA would have come close in my book.

BTW, the hiring folks at NJA don't really try to match you to airplane may have prior time in. I had nearly 2000 hours in the Beechjet when I interviewed, and it wasn't even offered. Same story with a buddy of mine who had about 3500 Beechjet hours and was assigned the Falcon. They simply match you to an aircraft based of vacancies in the fleet, your preferences and what they think you can handle based on prior experience and what they see in the interview.

-NTFB

Good post flyboy!

Glad you enjoy the X. I'm only 5'10" so hopefully it won't be too bad! I know it will be nice to fly something with some "get up and go" after flying the C-5 for several years!

BTW, welcome to the club, even if it was your last choice.:confused: It's always good to see more ex-mil guys getting hired as well. I understand from my last recurrent that only 5% of our pilots are ex-military.

Let me know how that first gusty crosswind landing in the X goes. Consider packing an extra pair of boxers during the windy months, if you know what I mean.:eek:

-NTFB

Hi!

I'm about 6'4". Any advice on which cockpits would work better for me?

cliff
YIP

Will do! Sounds exciting.

BTW, I'm still flying Fred in the reserves. It should be interesting switching back and forth between the two.

I think the Falcon or G200 are the roomiest.

X
 

Dude,
Shouldn't you be in the FOM...How was indoc?

2nd week of IOE, good times on the road. I'll second the x-wind landing comment...

Been studying the FOM all day of course..;)

Indoc was fine, we had a good group of guys. Start X training on Halloween!

Glad you're having fun in IOE!

I'll see you out there sooner or later!