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Navajo31 11-21-2007 07:15 PM

Flexjet hiring
 

Originally Posted by 9999 (Post 266667)
I just checked at FlexJet and they said there are no positions available at this time for the first officer positions. This was on the Bombadier website.

It bounces in and out on the website. I would suggest faxing your resume to Karen Parr. She is actively recruiting for classes in Jan and Feb.

NorthTxFlyBoy 11-21-2007 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by jtf560 (Post 267098)
NetJets is the biggest (around 50% of the business)

Update: From the company president at recurrent a couple of months ago, NetJets now has 75% of the market share and 95% of the growth in the fractional industry.

-NTFB

Slushie 11-21-2007 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by NorthTxFlyBoy (Post 267208)
Update: From the company president at recurrent a couple of months ago, NetJets now has 75% of the market share and 95% of the growth in the fractional industry.

-NTFB


Dang.

That's impressive.

UCLAbruins 11-22-2007 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by alexk1980 (Post 267107)
I am a FO at Colgan and would really like to get into the 135 world. I love my job but I need more and with 1200 TT, 550 multi (450 of which is turbine), I am not too marketable. I am considering going over to Cape Air to get some more hours because Colgan took our lines and went reserve with them for the next 1.5 months, and the QOL hasn't been great lately. I have a family and need to provide for them and it seems like the fractionals are much more employee friendly however, the 7 day schedule could be tough. Do the fractionals want turbine time? Or would multi time work just as well?

Hey bud, you are at Colgan, I know its a ****ty job, and I'm sure you are ready to get out, but going to Cape Air is not the solution. If you are going to leave a regional for a regional, at least go to one that allows you to get jet time. I know its easy for me to say, I'm not in your shoes. But unfortunately the regional job is a bullS&*@ job that most of us have to do. No way around it, unless you fly cargo all night long.

With your experience, your total time is going to be a problem. The fractionals, Nationals like Jetblue, and obviously the majors want more than that. A kick ass corporate job like Citigroup or Deutche Bank is out of the question, they operate large size biz-jets, and want some serious experience.

Right now your options are to wait at Colgan until you hit 2500TT, then apply at NJ, CS, and Flexjet. Or try to get on at Planesense or Avantair right now, you have a good chance. There are a lot of flight departments that will give you a chance, probably flying a King air, a Beechjet, or some type of citation jet.(better jobs than Colgan)

Jonesthepilot 11-22-2007 02:25 PM

I fly for Cape Air, I know of cape pilots that got hired at NJ with no turbine time. QOL at cape is great I'm flying in the carib now and cape is putting me up here in a hotel with a 4 on 3 off schedule. Check you PM alex

Bill Lumberg 11-22-2007 05:19 PM

My opinion: stay at Colgan and get your 2500 hours. You will have many more opportunities available to you with 2500 hours and plenty of turbine time. Sure, flying in the Caribbean would be fun - but you need to focus. Get your turbine time and enjoy the Beech 1900D. Focus on your end goal.

alpar80 11-23-2007 06:14 AM

I see where you all are coming from and it would be great to stay at colgan but, Im not flying, the pulled the saab out of pvd and put us all on reserve, basically calling us when they need us, no steady schedule and I cant do this to my family, its not fair to them.

KiloAlphaPapa 11-23-2007 07:24 AM

Hey man, Cape air is not always the greatest time builder out there, Do you want piston multi? If so go for it. If you really need the jet or turbine, RAH or somewhere might be better. Else where on here you can find the actual pay for your hard worked ovetime hours. Just an example though when I was flying for them, I had a sweet schedule in the carib and (3.5 on 3.5 off) most of the days I flew 6.5 hours, (8 legs) Then they always needed me on any day off I had, but unlike Colgan, I was never harassed to come to work, Just said I wanted to and then I had a schedule on that day. So if its TT you need, or Turbine time you need? and remember down the road, CAL 100turb, and the other big guys want some turbine.

Navajo31 11-24-2007 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by KiloAlphaPapa (Post 267701)
Hey man, Cape air is not always the greatest time builder out there, Do you want piston multi? If so go for it. If you really need the jet or turbine, RAH or somewhere might be better. Else where on here you can find the actual pay for your hard worked ovetime hours. Just an example though when I was flying for them, I had a sweet schedule in the carib and (3.5 on 3.5 off) most of the days I flew 6.5 hours, (8 legs) Then they always needed me on any day off I had, but unlike Colgan, I was never harassed to come to work, Just said I wanted to and then I had a schedule on that day. So if its TT you need, or Turbine time you need? and remember down the road, CAL 100turb, and the other big guys want some turbine.

If he's really interested in a fractional and already has several hundred turbine on the Saab, maybe it would be good to go to Cape Air and get some of the customer service experience the fractionals value so much. Can't get much of that locked behind a bullet proof door!

Navajo31 11-24-2007 09:22 AM

Fuzzy math?
 

Originally Posted by NorthTxFlyBoy (Post 267208)
Update: From the company president at recurrent a couple of months ago, NetJets now has 75% of the market share and 95% of the growth in the fractional industry.

-NTFB

Using the numbers on this forum, and considering only the Big Four in the fractional industry (QS, CS, FX, FLOPS), there are 721 aircraft. Netjet flies 408, or 57% (if you include the BBJ's and GS). There are 4,172 pilots. Netjets employees 65%. This means two things: 1) They probably don't really have 75% of the domestic fractional business; 2) They are not as efficient as the other operators in terms of pilot usage. (Higher percentage of pilots than planes.) This would account for their desire to get the TA approved.

Just numbers, but always interesting......


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