KTEB "the most complex airspace in the U.S"
 

Interesting article on KTEB airport, " the most complex airspace in the country".....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/22/ny...o.html?_r=1&hp

not sure where to post this, might wanna read it just incase it gets deleted..... good read

Very interesting article. I'm not so sure about the "most complex airspace" title though. There are several operations that come to mind that are much larger and much busier than TEB. O'hare, SFO, & ATL come to mind. I would have to think that the variety of equipment and more importantly the experience level (or lack thereof) of the crews create most of the problems such as the runway incursions. There is just no way to expect that a weekend warrior is going to operate at the same level of professionalism as a B737 or G5 crew.

I think the VFR and Helo traffic combined with the general location in regards to ERW, LGA and JFK make it pretty complex. The others mentioned are pretty complex too, but 1. Familiarity and 2. Professionalism (as you alluded to) make it easier to operate in those big class B airspaces than a busy GA airport underneath busy class B.

I think he's referring to its location not the airport itself.

but now that we're on the subject, I wonder which airspace is the most congested in this country, the NY or L.A airspace?? LGA, EWR, JFK, TEB, MMU, HPN vs LAX, ONT, BUR, SMO, VNY, LBG, SNA.... one Sunday morning we ferried from SNA to BUR, we got so many TA hits I couldn't tell what was what on the TCAS display

Just think about the amount of delays into the NY Metro area compared to the amount of delays in the L.A. Basin. I've been based at both JFK & LAX (now granted I've never been to any of the GA airports you mention such as VNY or TEB) and even on the BEST of weather days the NY Metros are delayed with GDP, GS, and EDCT programs. So I would have to think that the Metro airspace is much busier & complex. Granted though I would also think that the NY Metro airspace is mostly 121 airline ops vs. alot more GA traffic in the LA Basin with all the corporate airports scattered about in the Basin. In NY you've basically got TEB, ISP, & HPN....

and dont forget CDW !

Our company had us go through a 12 min online training course from Flight Safety about the TEB5 departure. It went through the airspace and showed you why you are restricted to 1500'. It really shows you what is going on with EWK and JFK's airspace right above you and why you have to pay attention.

You can find the training at flight safety's web site and go to elearning and select Teterboro5 awareness. Its free.

TEB 6 departure becomes effective on Aug 27.