It happens. I've had to refuse flights for fatigue for a number of causes, up to and including "I have no idea; just couldn't sleep." Noise sometimes causes it; large changes in start time causes it much more frequently. Whatever the cause, being able to decline a trip without reprisal makes us safer as a company.

I'm going to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe,,, just maybe,, this is day 4 of 13.5 hour duty days, that rotated from morning to afternoon, to an all night schedule. Maybe,,, his internal clock has not caught up and he was trying to sleep during the day.
Just wanted to throw that out,,,,,,,,

It has happened to all of us.

Learguy

good question, though I lean toward the Dark & Stormies out there :D

I'm just stating my opinion, which in all likelihood is fact. That being, fatigue is fatigue and lack of sleep is lack of sleep. I challenge you to refute that.

Sorry that you can't emotionally handle an opinion differing from yours.......so much that you have to reply with imagined consensus and mindless sarcasm.

Maybe the chickens, along with worrying about a potential furlough because management says so in recurrent, is what is keeping him/her up. I know it kept me up back in 2009, and there weren't even chickens.:cool:

Don't fall for the Gooses' antics

You also have no idea what his/her schedule was leading up to that night. As someone else pointed out, regardless of all the details (chickens possibly being one of many that he needed for a report as a catalyst for the event) if you are not fit to fly you should not fly.

In this environment, it is up to the individual to tap out when necessary as schedulers will simply keep piling on the work that they have until you do (and this goes for every operation). We are not going to war and it is a life and death occupation only if you make it so. Flying fatigued is one way to do it.

If there is an inference of abuse of the system, I'd say that for every 1 pilot that takes advantage of an industry leading fatigue policy there are 9 that don't use it when they should.

I second the vote for useless thread of the week.

So that it doesn't seem so useless a thread, lets add some education to this discussion.
Rooters crow, loudly, because they are trying to prove something. Chickens cluck, softly, because they just want to lay eggs and scratch for worms in the ground.
Most likely the culprit for the interrupted sleep was a rooster crowing to prove his manhood.
Next week's segment: Why roosters crow in the morning.

Siemprerojo, former chicken raiser.

An excellent description of internet forums. :p

Thank you tomgoodman. With that comment, and with the help of your straightman, Siemprerojo, you have rescued this thread from the indignity of being useless.

Thank you also for making me clean the coffee out of my keyboard.

I don't know, roosters are pretty darn loud. They were made that way and they don't crow at dawn. It's like an hour or two before. My in-laws had one. It slept in the tree next to the bedroom window. Bastard.

Fox ate him though, only left 1 feather. I don't miss him.