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CantStayAway 05-16-2018 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by CrewRest (Post 2595556)


And the company is arguing in their letter to the NMB that they are "saddled with an exorbitant credit to block ratio which render Frontier unable to run the airline"....Ha.....Ummm they are the ones offering all the incentive pay!!

Which they’re doing on purpose btw in order to try to build a case for these claims.

OpenClimb 05-16-2018 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by CantStayAway (Post 2595567)
Which they’re doing on purpose btw in order to try to build a case for these claims.

This and there is significant inefficiency in the style of point to point flying we're doing these days.

They've also been understaffed on the CA side of things in both MCO and LAS. As a DEN reserve guy, I would estimate at least 1:/2 my assignments begin and/or end with a deadhead to or from MCO or LAS.

Further, even when I'm not deadheading around to cover flying in other domiciles, I'd estimate at least a third of my flying is spent in the passenger compartment versus the left seat.

My message to the Company would be to stop building such inefficient pairings and ...wait for it... efficiency will improve! Seems axiomatic to me, but apparently not readily apparent to those at the puzzle palace.

Harry Canyon 05-17-2018 12:38 PM

Just saw the jetblue rates.

Did I mention "F.U....Pay Me"?

Missed Appch 05-20-2018 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by PulledBreaker (Post 2585775)
Picking up incentivised trips helps the company, period.

Yep. Lot's of people seem to be helping.

RustyChain 05-20-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Missed Appch (Post 2598130)
Yep. Lot's of people seem to be helping.

What part of "status quo" is so ****ing complicated?

V1 McFlyerson 05-20-2018 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Missed Appch (Post 2598130)
Yep. Lot's of people seem to be helping.

That's gross.

Pilotjay22 05-20-2018 12:47 PM

Will you guys knock it off please? You're just not gonna be happy till we have a TRO and Pref Bid. It just takes a few idiots to ruin it.

Duct Mon 05-20-2018 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotjay22 (Post 2598366)
Will you guys knock it off please? You're just not gonna be happy till we have a TRO and Pref Bid. It just takes a few idiots to ruin it.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on a public forum.

Salukipilot4590 05-20-2018 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Duct Mon (Post 2598438)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on a public forum.

Lol pretty sure the judge might disagree with you but we’ll see since y’all just can’t stop.

CantStayAway 05-20-2018 04:03 PM

The bottom line is it doesn’t matter what is said on an online forum. Yes, it could potentially be used as evidence in a case, but that would only happen if pilots stopped picking up at a rate that can be statistically documented.

Guess what, if that documented work slowdown happens with no written documentation (online forums, emails, texts, etc) the company will still get a TRO against the pilots.

This whole system is completely rigged. The ONLY things we have as a pilot group are 1) getting released to self-help (very unlikely) and 2) a no vote if the TA is not up to snuff.

Pickets, billboards, radio ads, and not picking up extra flying all may make us feel good but that doesn’t get us a market contract. I’m not knocking pickets as they do help show unity, but we really only have 2 ways to get a deal we deserve. The rest is a dog and pony show.


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