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Missed Appch 07-23-2018 08:59 PM
Originally Posted by FairWage (Post 2641298)
Here's a question.
In recent history F9 has paid for charter companies (SunCountry, Southern) to fly their planes and pilots with F9 passengers. This was to cover F9 schedules.
So, Why has mgmt cancelled vacations when they can just pay these charters to fly the uncovered schedules?

Simple. They hate employees and will screw them over every chance they get. Pure vindictiveness. Nothing more.

Aero1900 07-23-2018 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by Missed Appch (Post 2641310)
Simple. They hate employees and will screw them over every chance they get. Pure vindictiveness. Nothing more.
I agree. I believe the August vacation cancellation was just to **** us off. Let's be real; did they really need to cancel 140 pilots vacations? No way. How about cancel 25, that would have lightened up the open time. But 140!? It was a pure F U to us

MCDUie 07-23-2018 10:08 PM
Originally Posted by FairWage (Post 2641298)
Here's a question.
In recent history F9 has paid for charter companies (SunCountry, Southern) to fly their planes and pilots with F9 passengers. This was to cover F9 schedules.
So, Why has mgmt cancelled vacations when they can just pay these charters to fly the uncovered schedules?
That was more an aircraft shortage than a pilot shortage. They did that when planes were out of service or Airbus was behind on deliveries.

CantStayAway 07-24-2018 03:55 AM
Originally Posted by MCDUie (Post 2641327)
That was more an aircraft shortage than a pilot shortage. They did that when planes were out of service or Airbus was behind on deliveries.
Haven’t more planes been out of service this summer than planned?

MCDUie 07-24-2018 08:15 PM
Originally Posted by CantStayAway (Post 2641366)
Haven’t more planes been out of service this summer than planned?
Not sure, but the company is cheap and not willing to give flying to another carrier unless it’s an absolute last resort. If they have aircraft and pilots to fly them, they will do everything within their legal power to complete flights in house before giving away revenue. Secondly, ALPA has defended these actions in the past stating the company was not in violation of our contract when exercising this option due to extenuating circumstances. Not that it would have stopped them but I don’t think the company would have received ALPA’s blessing this summer and I’m sure ALPA had a few legal avenues they could have pursued to make it less lucrative for the company if a contract violation did occur.


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