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Revert 09-24-2018 08:17 AM

On that note.. Is this something our union could push for legally? Requesting that all line pilots acting in any type of training capacity resign from doing so.

Does this make sense?
The union is spending resources informing/warning potential new hire candidates of the pitfalls of accepting a job at Frontier. But when those same pilots ignore this warning, and accept employment anyways. The Union stands idely by, while our Union brother and sister line pilots train them? How is this helping?

I thought the Company's inability to attract, train and retain new pilots was one of our largest bargaining chips. Every Union memo I get mentions this. Am I wrong?? Delusional? This whole process just sucks.

Missed Appch 09-24-2018 09:18 AM

I’m guessing that that is a very fine line.

But, you’d think it would be obvious. I’m not sure how many hints the union has to put out.

Gary et al 09-24-2018 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Missed Appch (Post 2679954)
I completely agree. I wonder how many people have helped the company out by becoming the lowest paid check airman in the industry over the past year. But at least we are hiring some of the most unqualified candidates for them to fly with.

Absolutely, SE taxi is the only one I brought up on the board because there are easy and clear ways to defend why someone would not do this in regards to safety. There are so many other things our brothers and sisters should be doing that have nothing to do with safety but everything to do with following the letter of the contract. Yet they choose convenience, passengers, or personal desires over a greater purpose of getting this isht done. Then there are other things that have nothing to do with the contract but one would think it may be common sense, such as STAFFING. It is a big issue so anything that effects STAFFING an aircraft is simply delaying our goal. Worse yet, there are several who feel we just "need a raise" and will almost accept anything. They are clueless to happenings of the other pilot groups and think we actually have pretty good hear and just need a little more money. Holy batman wtf. Its a sad place right now, you'd think with as ruthless as this management team is that people would actually unite.

dracir1 09-24-2018 04:47 PM

How many different threads do we need to complain about the same thing?

OpenClimb 09-24-2018 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 2680269)
How many different threads do we need to complain about the same thing?

Twelve. No more, no less.

Thanks for asking.

:D


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